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Reinstatement of Elaena. de. Troy. - Excommunication
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MessagePosté le: Lun Fév 13, 2023 5:30 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

    Brothers, this matter is still pending.

    Opinions?

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MessagePosté le: Lun Fév 13, 2023 7:25 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I am convinced that the Church should make no difference to penitent sinners, that is, she should ask everyone to truly prove their repentance.
The letter is not enough, because the letters, except for a few personal words concerning the person's actions, are all the same.
Many of us comment that we trust the judgement of the brother/sister cardinal... if the judgement is to be collective, it is to the Curia that the penitent must prove himself worthy.

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MessagePosté le: Lun Fév 13, 2023 10:31 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Sister, I understand your bitterness, but unlike the excommunicated persons whom you warmly defended and who did nothing more than write a letter (as Elaena did) and produced no other tangible signs of their true repentance, Elaena after being severely wounded in battle set out to go as soon as possible to where we asked her to go and pledged to help us recover an abandoned region. Can you tell me the same about other excommunicated people?
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MessagePosté le: Lun Fév 13, 2023 10:43 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

    I personally favor her reinstatement in the Aristotelian Community.

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MessagePosté le: Mar Fév 14, 2023 11:03 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I think it might be acceptable, since he then agreed to serve the Church
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MessagePosté le: Mer Fév 15, 2023 11:28 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

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MessagePosté le: Mer Fév 15, 2023 8:16 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

    If there are no opposing views by tomorrow, I think we can invoke consensus.

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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 17, 2023 1:04 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

    Do we have consensus?

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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 17, 2023 4:02 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

    Here is the draft for consideration.

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      Reintegration of Elaena Pauline Vittoria Rochamboise de Troy


      We, the Cardinals of the Holy Aristotelian, Universal and Roman Church, reunited in our Sacred College, under the Light of Saints and Prophets and by the Grace of the Most High and of the His Holiness Sixtus IV,

        With great joy and happiness, we announce the reintegration of Elaena Pauline Vittoria Rochamboise de Troy [Elaena] into the Community of the Faithful.

        On the 19th of January of 1471, the Sacred College of the Cardinals received the Declaration of Abjuration and Profession of Faith of Elaena Pauline Vittoria Rochamboise of Troy, by the hands of the Grand Inquisitor Vicar, His Eminence, Cardinal Alexandra Pamela Cagliostro d'Altavilla, in the condition of guarantor of the conformity of the Declaration.

        After a scrutinized and meticulous analysis of her Declaration of Abjuration, the Sacred College of the Cardinals has decided that the time has come for Holy Mother Aristotelian, Universal and Roman Church to reopen her hands to receive this penitent daughter into her bosom.

        Under these considerations, the Sacred College of Cardinals, with the authority vested in it by Canon Law and in the name of His Holiness Sixtus IV, Sovereign Pontiff and Pope of the Universal Church, declares, decrees, and orders the lifting of the Excommunication imposed on the faithful Elaena Pauline Vittoria Rochamboise of Troy and, as a logical consectory, the full and immediate restitution of her baptismal rights, whose effects will materialize after the complete fulfillment of their penances.

        As a final penance and to seek her remission before the Most High and the Prophets, the Sacred College of the Cardinals orders the faithful to promote (i) a journey in pilgrimage to all the parishes of her Province, praying and asking for forgiveness in each of them; (ii) the donation of 200 pounds to a diocese indicated by the Apostolic Chamber and by the Cardinal-Camerlengo of Rome, and (iii) a public declaration of apology for her actions against the Most High, against the Faith, and against Holy Mother Church.

        With the full fulfillment of the acts of penance and remission, the Sacred College of the Cardinals advises and recommends that the faithful attend Pastoral Courses at the Pontifical University or at any of the Aristotelian Seminaries recognized by the Congregation for the Diffusion of the Faith, with the objective of deepening, improving, and updating your knowledge and understanding of the Aristotelian Faith.

        With this, the Sacred College of the Cardinals and His Holiness, the Pope pray to the Most High that her beloved daughter may lead her life and her actions, under the Light of the Most High, in accordance with the Aristotelian Virtues and the Teachings of the Holy Mother Church.


      Given in Rome, on the seventeenth day of February in the Year of Grace MCDLXXI, V of the Pontificate of His Holiness Sixtus IV and III of the Age of Restoration of the Faith

      Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam!


      His Eminence Adonnis Ferreira de Queirós Silva e Sagres
      Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae Cardinalis Vicedecanus





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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 17, 2023 8:21 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

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MessagePosté le: Ven Fév 17, 2023 8:30 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

"Placet."
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MessagePosté le: Sam Fév 18, 2023 5:48 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I agree
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MessagePosté le: Sam Fév 18, 2023 6:37 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

    The deadline set in the Internal Rules having elapsed without any objection, consensus is obtained.

    Announcement Published.

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