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Fenice Cardinal
Inscrit le: 19 Déc 2010 Messages: 11994
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Posté le: Lun Déc 18, 2017 12:31 am Sujet du message: |
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Italian-speaking zone - digest
Citation: | Provincia Ecclesiastica di ROMA :
Diocesi dell'Aquila --> Innocentius
Diocesi di Sulmona-Valva —> Innocentius
ITALIAN SPEAKING DIOCESES
Sarzana -> Innocentius
“Attle (Diocese of Sarzana or Massa) is a schismatic, suspended a divinis by the Italophone Consistory and not recognized by the Church. He can not be a bishop. It would be preferable, in the absence of an immediate name, to put Innocentius.” JD Gropius (Cardinal)
Arcidiocesi di GENOVA
Ventimiglia: Silvio_1 (Marto ends in 1 day)
Luni (La Spezia): Ciumi74 (Sergius ends in 1 day)
Per la Provincia ecclesiastica di MILANO:
Arcidiocesi di Milano - Arcivescovo: Samuele (Samuele non è ancora Arcivescovo di Milano)
Per la Provincia ecclesiastica di RAVENNA:
Diocesi di Piacenza (Piacenza): Yuri00 (Yuri00 ends in 1 day)
Per la Provincia ecclesiastica di PISA:
Diocesi di Massa: Andecri
Diocesi di Livorno : Lanzichenecco -> Provincia ecclesiastica di Pisa + Arcidiocesi di Pisa => stex86 is then the bishop here too ( lanzichenecco è solo per la parrocchia di Livorno a pisa c'è Stex)
Diocesi di Volterra : Trottolo64 (Cheyanne ends in 1 day)
Diocesi di San Miniato : Pifball => OK
(Cheyanne è in ritiro) |
Sir.johnny has given the names for Firenze and Heldor for Venice
heldor a écrit: | For the Patriarcato di Venezia
Heldor: Archbishop of Venice
Zaida: Bishop of Treviso
Innocentius: Bishop of Padova
Fuego2806: Bishop of Verona
Orlando74: Bishop of Mantua
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Sir.Johnny a écrit: | Citation: | Per la Provincia ecclesiastica di Firenze:
Arcidiocesi di Firenze - Arcivescovo: Sir.Johnny
Diocesi di Pistoia: Profeta
Diocesi di Fiezole: Dampyr
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And Selghor for Udine wrote this:
Selghor a écrit: | Darthh a écrit: |
There is already a bishop in charge at the time. Have you checked with him before ?
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I answer the place of Cardinal Samuele:
I am the new archbishop RP of the diocese of Udine.
Zaccagnini was excommunicated and suspended a divinis
from the court of the holy inquisition,
therefore it should be eliminated both as parish priest and as archbishop of Udine
Please proceed as follows:
Selghor -> Archbishop of Udine and bishop of Concordia
Pixhel -> Bishop of Pola
Udine -> Innocentius
Parenzo -> Innocentius
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SirPasterz
Inscrit le: 18 Déc 2017 Messages: 2
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Posté le: Lun Déc 18, 2017 6:26 pm Sujet du message: |
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Je demande de l'aide.
L'archidiocèse de Gniezno,
le diocèse de Cracovie,
n'a pas d'évêques. _________________
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Eduardo
Inscrit le: 13 Avr 2017 Messages: 1733 Localisation: Real Paço da Ribeira, Reino de Portugal
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Posté le: Lun Déc 18, 2017 6:46 pm Sujet du message: |
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au Portugal, aucun des évêques n'a été nommé à cause de ces points manquants. C'est une situation extrêmement mauvaise pour les joueurs. Les évêques ne peuvent pas obtenir les points, car il n'y a pas de temps pour le faire. Faute de personnes dans l'Église, nous devons accomplir des tâches bien au-delà de nos diocèses et de nos paroisses. Il n'est pas possible que l'Adm ne prenne pas en compte tous ces efforts. Les personnes qui ont ce qu'on appelle les «points» sont les clérges qui assistent à peine au forum, et certains ne veulent même pas avoir de comptes à Rome. Au Portugal, nous avons eu le bon sens d'avoir notre rendez-vous.
De plus, lorsque j'ai lu le communiqué à propos de Brennos, il n'était pas clair pour moi que seuls ceux qui figuraient sur la liste IG seraient nommés. Notre interprétation était que la liste IG commencerait à s'appliquer quand le pape était un joueur. Les conseillers diocésains ont également été dissous, ce qui nous a empêché d'essayer de résoudre ce problème de points à l'achat d'indulgences avec le trésor du diocèse. Une exagération. _________________ Pela Graça de Deus, Sua Majestade Real D. Eduardo I de Portugal, Rei de Portugal e dos Algarves, d'Aquém e d'Além-Mar |
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Darthh
Inscrit le: 07 Sep 2017 Messages: 361
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Posté le: Lun Déc 18, 2017 6:52 pm Sujet du message: |
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UPDATE
En attente - will be appointed next Monday
Jim.des.etoiles. --> Cahors => OK
Le Puy => Atharvan => OK
Diocèse de Nantes -> Gilliane => OK
Diocesi di Piacenza (Piacenza) => OK
Ventimiglia: Silvio_1 => OK
Luni (La Spezia): Ciumi74 => OK
Diocesi di Volterra : Trottolo64 => OK
New requests :
Please place Brother Vidra in as Bishop in Diocese of Llanelwy (St Asaph) => OK _________________ Darthh - Celsius Online |
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SirPasterz
Inscrit le: 18 Déc 2017 Messages: 2
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Posté le: Lun Déc 18, 2017 6:58 pm Sujet du message: |
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le diocèse de Płock a un évêque qui n'a pas de baptême. _________________
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Alienor Catherine
Inscrit le: 20 Déc 2015 Messages: 60
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Posté le: Lun Déc 18, 2017 8:08 pm Sujet du message: |
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Anakonda a écrit: | Yes, you are right.
We players of the RAK thought the same and tried to find a OCC-solution in the playerspart of our forum, but we only get insults from some of the HDAK-players. The rest remain in silent.
But we are still ready to take place on a round table with you. You too? |
Sir_christoph a écrit: | Nicolaus_fugger:
whose business is it, to clarify the situation? The players can't decide if -you brennos- want to have more than one religion in your game.
Do you want to have spinozists, averroists sects and cults or do you want just rome? A cult like us, the reformed aristotelians with the majority of the people behind them can never attack and conquer a diocese because this would mean to wage war against the whole empire and/or the papacy.
In theory it sounds easy: claim your right and conquer it. But practically the cults and religions are not really able to do so because of the military power of the empire and the papacy. (Just read the concordat)
In the last years we wrote several tickets but never get a clear answer. It seams that celsius prefers rome and the players in this forum and leaves the rest on its own. But in fact its not the reformed curch there are many other cults, selcts and religions without any chance to play the game as it shuold be played. With the same chances for every player as is it sayd in the game description. |
I am opened to discussion. As long as there is a discussion. When I hear comments like the last one, I have doubts. However, if the other parties involved will participate, I am ready to do so as well.
Policarpo a écrit: | There are only one solution in my opinion, so everyone is happy.
The Archdiocese of Seckau is created, separately from Salzburg, so the dispute is besieged. The diocese of Seckau was historically created on 22.06.1218.
Sure, she is not an archdiocese in real life, but to be at peace I would take that step.
I forgot to mention based in Graz, because she is one of the neighborhoods.
Make this request by ticket and here too. |
For my point of view, it could work out. _________________
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Rodrigomanzanarez Cardinal
Inscrit le: 25 Mai 2014 Messages: 3295
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Posté le: Lun Déc 18, 2017 10:55 pm Sujet du message: |
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First of all: I clearly reject the insults done here on personnel level by Christoph User and wrong presentation. Thats not in line with the forum rules here and I kindly ask to stop.
Fact is, I simply made a very objective approach here thats totally divided from my char.
And I repeat:
It's up to the Admins to decide about the right of Investiture.
And about if the chooser must choose someone from a list or if he can also take no one. ( I must admit.. i dont know if he must choose or not).
Or if it a parish or diocese can be conquered or not and if how.
Thats an Admin decision to program it or not. And the Players duty to accept it after decided.
And when decided the players decision to use it then in frame of his or their IG possibilities.
Celsius so far defined regions where the Pope has Investiture right and regions where he does not have. Current Status is Salzburg or Geneve are Pope Investiture. There is a wish from several players here, that Styria and Switzerland get such an own Investiture right. Others from Rome players have it different. So. Thats on the table and Celsius can decide. As player i say.. why not? Especially for Switzerland as this is independet from SRING or France since the beginning. But i also respect if Celsius like the Pope investiture to remain big.
>>> So let Celsius have that decided where is which right of Investiture. Then explained to us as players. And then we see what to make of it on Player Level.
If it is decided Pope has investiture right, a round table only makes sense having church Players on the table.
But anyway.. what else can be done?
For Geneve especially.. I put the the proposal on table to put Annecy to another diocese. Geneve in Switzerland and Annecy in SRING that must share one bishop and bishop council is a permanent problematic constellation.
Comparable for Salzburg, that is still defined as an Arq Diocese and having two totally different churches under one roof.
So. maybe it could help that the Styrian towns are put out of the Arq Diocese and form an own one with Graz for example as diocese capital. That would seperate two different playing churches.
Proposals are on table.. lets see what will be decided. It's like that then. _________________
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Sahinbey
Inscrit le: 07 Jan 2016 Messages: 14
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Posté le: Mar Déc 19, 2017 1:01 pm Sujet du message: |
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Ottoman Empire
Arcbishop: NONE
Sahinbey
Archbishop of Ottoman Empire
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Crepitus
Inscrit le: 13 Avr 2008 Messages: 56
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Posté le: Mar Déc 19, 2017 2:15 pm Sujet du message: |
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Kingdom of Hungary
Metropolitan Diocese: Esztergomi Érsekség -> Amira
Suffragan dioceses:
Veszprémi Püspökség -> Rika0912
Győri Püspökség -> Crepitus |
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Darthh
Inscrit le: 07 Sep 2017 Messages: 361
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Posté le: Mar Déc 19, 2017 2:35 pm Sujet du message: |
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LAST UPDATE
ITALIA
Selghor -> Archbishop of Udine => will have to choose between Innocentius and someone else because Selghor is not in the list
bishop of Concordia => Selghor => OK
Pixhel -> Bishop of Pola => OK
Parenzo -> Innocentius => OK
Diocesi di Massa: andecri => OK
Per la Provincia ecclesiastica di Firenze:
Arcidiocesi di Firenze - Arcivescovo: Sir.Johnny => OK
Diocesi di Pistoia: Profeta => no one is eligible in this diocese
Diocesi di Fiezole: Dampyr => OK
For the Patriarcato di Venezia
Heldor: Archbishop of Venice => OK
Zaida: Bishop of Treviso => OK
Innocentius: Bishop of Padova => please wait
Fuego2806: Bishop of Verona => OK
Orlando74: Bishop of Mantua => OK
Arcidiocesi di Milano -
Arcivescovo: Samuele (not archbishop yet -> only one in the list : Egal. What is your decision ?
Diocesi di Livorno : Lanzichenecco -> Provincia ecclesiastica di Pisa + Arcidiocesi di Pisa => stex86 is then the bishop here too ( lanzichenecco est seulement pour la paroisse de Livourne à Pise il y a Stex) -> for now we cannot name someone for Livorno, the archbishop of Pisa is in charge
FRANCE
Diocèse de Toulouse -> aucune contestation -> Ceriera => OK
Bazas : Venumz => OK
PORTUGAL
Nomination >> Nicollielo - Archidiocèse de Braga => OK
OTTOMAN EMPIRE
Archbishop of Ottoman Empire : Sahinbey => ////// CONTESTATIONS, please wait _________________ Darthh - Celsius Online
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Darthh
Inscrit le: 07 Sep 2017 Messages: 361
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Posté le: Mar Déc 19, 2017 2:40 pm Sujet du message: |
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UPDATE:
Kingdom of Hungary
Metropolitan Diocese: Esztergomi Érsekség -> Amira => OK
Suffragan dioceses:
Veszprémi Püspökség -> Rika0912 => OK
Győri Püspökség -> Crepitus => OK _________________ Darthh - Celsius Online |
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Fenice Cardinal
Inscrit le: 19 Déc 2010 Messages: 11994
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Posté le: Mar Déc 19, 2017 7:24 pm Sujet du message: |
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Darthh a écrit: | [color=indigo]
LAST UPDATE
ITALIA
Selghor -> Archbishop of Udine => will have to choose between Innocentius and someone else because Selghor is not in the list
Arcidiocesi di Milano -
Arcivescovo: Samuele (not archbishop yet -> only one in the list : Egal. What is your decision ?
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Udine: are there any other names in the list? If there is none, then Innocentius.
Milano: if Samuele goes to Milano and takes up the residence, can he be appointed?
Thanks _________________
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samuele
Inscrit le: 07 Oct 2012 Messages: 4914 Localisation: Pavia - Ducato di Milano
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Posté le: Mar Déc 19, 2017 9:27 pm Sujet du message: |
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Fenice a écrit: |
Milano: if Samuele goes to Milano and takes up the residence, can he be appointed?
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If it is possible I can be in MIlan on thursday and take the residence immediately. |
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Sahinbey
Inscrit le: 07 Jan 2016 Messages: 14
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Posté le: Mer Déc 20, 2017 7:27 am Sujet du message: |
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Darthh a écrit: |
LAST UPDATE
OTTOMAN EMPIRE
Archbishop of Ottoman Empire : Sahinbey => ////// CONTESTATIONS, please wait |
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Brennos
Inscrit le: 06 Juin 2011 Messages: 332
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Posté le: Mer Déc 20, 2017 12:52 pm Sujet du message: |
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samuele a écrit: | Fenice a écrit: |
Milano: if Samuele goes to Milano and takes up the residence, can he be appointed?
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If it is possible I can be in MIlan on thursday and take the residence immediately. |
If you do that, you will wait next sunday to be in the list, and then you can be appointed if we see you in the list. _________________ Retired Admin - Admin à la retraite
To follow my new adventures
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