L'Eglise Aristotelicienne Romaine The Roman and Aristotelic Church

[Fenice]

Italian-speaking zone - digest

[SirPasterz]

Je demande de l'aide.
L'archidiocèse de Gniezno,
le diocèse de Cracovie,
n'a pas d'évêques.
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[Eduardo]

au Portugal, aucun des évêques n'a été nommé à cause de ces points manquants. C'est une situation extrêmement mauvaise pour les joueurs. Les évêques ne peuvent pas obtenir les points, car il n'y a pas de temps pour le faire. Faute de personnes dans l'Église, nous devons accomplir des tâches bien au-delà de nos diocèses et de nos paroisses. Il n'est pas possible que l'Adm ne prenne pas en compte tous ces efforts. Les personnes qui ont ce qu'on appelle les «points» sont les clérges qui assistent à peine au forum, et certains ne veulent même pas avoir de comptes à Rome. Au Portugal, nous avons eu le bon sens d'avoir notre rendez-vous.

De plus, lorsque j'ai lu le communiqué à propos de Brennos, il n'était pas clair pour moi que seuls ceux qui figuraient sur la liste IG seraient nommés. Notre interprétation était que la liste IG commencerait à s'appliquer quand le pape était un joueur. Les conseillers diocésains ont également été dissous, ce qui nous a empêché d'essayer de résoudre ce problème de points à l'achat d'indulgences avec le trésor du diocèse. Une exagération.
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Pela Graça de Deus, Sua Majestade Real D. Eduardo I de Portugal, Rei de Portugal e dos Algarves, d'Aquém e d'Além-Mar

[Darthh]

UPDATE

En attente - will be appointed next Monday

Jim.des.etoiles. --> Cahors => OK
Le Puy => Atharvan => OK
Diocèse de Nantes -> Gilliane => OK
Diocesi di Piacenza (Piacenza) => OK

Ventimiglia: Silvio_1 => OK

Luni (La Spezia): Ciumi74 => OK

Diocesi di Volterra : Trottolo64 => OK


New requests :

Please place Brother Vidra in as Bishop in Diocese of Llanelwy (St Asaph) => OK
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Darthh - Celsius Online

[SirPasterz]

le diocèse de Płock a un évêque qui n'a pas de baptême.
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[Alienor Catherine]

[Rodrigomanzanarez]

First of all: I clearly reject the insults done here on personnel level by Christoph User and wrong presentation. Thats not in line with the forum rules here and I kindly ask to stop.

Fact is, I simply made a very objective approach here thats totally divided from my char.

And I repeat:

It's up to the Admins to decide about the right of Investiture.
And about if the chooser must choose someone from a list or if he can also take no one. ( I must admit.. i dont know if he must choose or not).
Or if it a parish or diocese can be conquered or not and if how.

Thats an Admin decision to program it or not. And the Players duty to accept it after decided.

And when decided the players decision to use it then in frame of his or their IG possibilities.

Celsius so far defined regions where the Pope has Investiture right and regions where he does not have. Current Status is Salzburg or Geneve are Pope Investiture. There is a wish from several players here, that Styria and Switzerland get such an own Investiture right. Others from Rome players have it different. So. Thats on the table and Celsius can decide. As player i say.. why not? Especially for Switzerland as this is independet from SRING or France since the beginning. But i also respect if Celsius like the Pope investiture to remain big.

>>> So let Celsius have that decided where is which right of Investiture. Then explained to us as players. And then we see what to make of it on Player Level.

If it is decided Pope has investiture right, a round table only makes sense having church Players on the table.

But anyway.. what else can be done?


For Geneve especially.. I put the the proposal on table to put Annecy to another diocese. Geneve in Switzerland and Annecy in SRING that must share one bishop and bishop council is a permanent problematic constellation.

Comparable for Salzburg, that is still defined as an Arq Diocese and having two totally different churches under one roof.
So. maybe it could help that the Styrian towns are put out of the Arq Diocese and form an own one with Graz for example as diocese capital. That would seperate two different playing churches.

Proposals are on table.. lets see what will be decided. It's like that then.
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[Sahinbey]

Ottoman Empire
Arcbishop: NONE

Sahinbey
Archbishop of Ottoman Empire
Thanks

[Crepitus]

Kingdom of Hungary

Metropolitan Diocese: Esztergomi Érsekség -> Amira

Suffragan dioceses:
Veszprémi Püspökség -> Rika0912
Győri Püspökség -> Crepitus

[Darthh]

LAST UPDATE
ITALIA

Selghor -> Archbishop of Udine => will have to choose between Innocentius and someone else because Selghor is not in the list
bishop of Concordia => Selghor => OK
Pixhel -> Bishop of Pola => OK
Parenzo -> Innocentius => OK
Diocesi di Massa: andecri => OK

Per la Provincia ecclesiastica di Firenze:

Arcidiocesi di Firenze - Arcivescovo: Sir.Johnny => OK
Diocesi di Pistoia: Profeta => no one is eligible in this diocese
Diocesi di Fiezole: Dampyr => OK

For the Patriarcato di Venezia

Heldor: Archbishop of Venice => OK
Zaida: Bishop of Treviso => OK
Innocentius: Bishop of Padova => please wait
Fuego2806: Bishop of Verona => OK
Orlando74: Bishop of Mantua => OK

Arcidiocesi di Milano -
Arcivescovo: Samuele (not archbishop yet -> only one in the list : Egal. What is your decision ?
Diocesi di Livorno : Lanzichenecco -> Provincia ecclesiastica di Pisa + Arcidiocesi di Pisa => stex86 is then the bishop here too ( lanzichenecco est seulement pour la paroisse de Livourne à Pise il y a Stex) -> for now we cannot name someone for Livorno, the archbishop of Pisa is in charge

FRANCE

Diocèse de Toulouse -> aucune contestation -> Ceriera => OK
Bazas : Venumz => OK

PORTUGAL

Nomination >> Nicollielo - Archidiocèse de Braga => OK

OTTOMAN EMPIRE

Archbishop of Ottoman Empire : Sahinbey => ////// CONTESTATIONS, please wait
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Darthh - Celsius Online

[Darthh]

UPDATE:

Kingdom of Hungary

Metropolitan Diocese: Esztergomi Érsekség -> Amira => OK

Suffragan dioceses:
Veszprémi Püspökség -> Rika0912 => OK
Győri Püspökség -> Crepitus => OK
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Darthh - Celsius Online

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