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MessagePosté le: Dim Déc 24, 2006 12:21 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Stole is a sin my friend!!

The word your looking for is sweet talk!
Yes I have the ability! LOL

I caught him preaching in a Market it embarrasses me to say I did not know that option worked!!

He was to good an opportunity not to try to encourage him to be more active!
My home Town has struggled without me and I've felt my travels as a Bishop have been unfair on them as a whole!

Cornwall also lacks teachers of any kind and with out Cornwall’s support I would not be a Bishop! so I owe them as well!

Emunah he will be in Cornwall soon and I would be delighted if your travels took in Cornwall I'm sure we have much we could teach you even I can offer Logique and would love to learn Good.
We also have Lorudce remember who has Virtue : 100 % Pleasure and Delight : 50 % Temperance : 100 % Justice : 100 % But needs Good so a bit of time here may help us both!
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MessagePosté le: Dim Déc 24, 2006 12:35 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Sweet talk, you mean seduce.

A bishop that chats up a strange foreign man on the street and asks him to come back home with him. Shocked

Really you're one to talk about sins. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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MessagePosté le: Dim Déc 24, 2006 9:50 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Rolling Eyes indeed

Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
Temperance : 8 %
Logique : 100 %

Rolling Eyes irionic and might explain on a few why i am lost Laughing smart and a master on stuff but not much temprance Rolling Eyes
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MessagePosté le: Dim Déc 24, 2006 11:04 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

slowly but surely...

Citation:
Master of Latin: 29%
Master of ancien Greek: 92%
Master of English Language: 10%


Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
The Good : 100 %
Virtue : 50 %
Temperance : 50 %
Logique : 59 %
Les sens de l'Etre : 59 %

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MessagePosté le: Dim Déc 24, 2006 1:38 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I think it would be a good idea to record our skills in a thread just the skills and update them as and when! No chit chat just the skills! And perhaps the menu!
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MessagePosté le: Dim Déc 24, 2006 6:40 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Dear Fathers,

My skills at the end of message.

In the Worcester, we have only lessons in "logique" and "Some stuf on Aristoteles".
No student of the church possesses knowledge in "Le commencement du monde [The Beginning of the World] " and "Les sens de l'Etre [Sense of Being] ".
These 2 skills are necessary for better efficiency of the sermons.

The university, of which I'm the rector, looks for a professor.
If anyone wishes to make a travel in order to help us he will be welcome. The university will allow him to give lessons.
Maybe his eminence latan wo lives to gloucester?

20 workdays to read, to study, to look for new ideas, in vain Sad

I wish you a merry Christmas

God bless you.


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Master of ancien Greek: 100%
Master of English Language: 20%

Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
The Good : 50 %
Temperance : 50 %
A seventh stuf. Maybe the seventh sky. Or better: the seventh son of the seventh son : 37 %
Logique : 100 %


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MessagePosté le: Dim Déc 24, 2006 8:09 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

syounger a écrit:
I think it would be a good idea to record our skills in a thread just the skills and update them as and when! No chit chat just the skills! And perhaps the menu!


Latan had the same idea. Smile

Here's Birmingham: http://rome.royaumesrenaissants.com/viewtopic.php?t=2394

(And yes I still haven't updated my list... Rolling Eyes )
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Citation:
Master of Latin: 29%
Master of ancien Greek: 95%
Master of English Language: 10%


Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
The Good : 100 %
Virtue : 50 %
Temperance : 50 %
Logique : 59 %
Les sens de l'Etre : 59 %

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Citation:
Master of Latin: 41%
Master of ancient Greek: 46%
Master of French Language: 10%

Some stuf on Aristoteles : 66 %
Pleasure and Delight : 20 %
A seventh stuf. Maybe the seventh sky. Or better: the seventh son of the seventh son : 20 %
Logique : 64 %
Les sens de l'Etre : 21 %

You are a true believer.

It seems reasonable to you to say that things are copies of the Ideas.

It seems reasonable to you to say that metaphysics is the study of first principles.

It doesn't seem insane to you to pretend that the Holy Being is Almighty.

It doesn't seem insane to you to pretend that the wise man must take part in the life of the City.

It doesn't seem insane to you to pretend that sensible beauty is an image of Eternal Beauty that any Soul has already contemplated once.

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MessagePosté le: Lun Déc 25, 2006 9:27 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Ok then, I have had a little bit of time on my hands. DF, here is what I believe we should do for sure. Looking at the two posts about the books and transcendental menu, the books we need to study for a 5 knowledge are Timée - Platon - Cornwall/Sussex, Physique / Physics - France, De providentia - Sénèque - Wiltshire, De natura deorum - Cicéron - France, Le Banquet* - de Platon - Cornwall/Sussex/Wiltshire, Poétique - Aristotle - France, The Nicomachean Ethics X - Le vrai bonheur / The True Pleasure - France, and Metaphysics A Confused **

Your 5 knowledge is listed (IMO) in the transcendental menu:
Citation:
    [1]l'Etre Divin est tout-puissant
    The Holy Being is Almighty

    • Timée - Platon - Grec
    • la Physique d'Aristote
    • De providentia - Sénèque - Latin
    • De natura deorum - Cicéron - Latin


    [2]Ideas related to the Divinity:

    • Les choses sont des copies des Idées
      Things are copies of the Ideas

    • Le Banquet, de Platon

    [3]La beauté sensible est une image de la Beauté éternelle que l'âme a toujours déjà contemplée
    Sensible beauty is an image of Eternal Beauty that any Soul has already contemplated once

    • Le Banquet, de Platon
    • Poétique - Aristote - Grec

    [4]Le bonheur est une forme de contemplation, que le sage doit s'efforcer d'atteindre
    Happiness is a kind of meditation

    • Ethique X - le vrai bonheur - Aristote
    • Poétique - Aristote - Grec

    [5]La métaphysique est la science des causes premières
    Metaphysics is the study of first principles

    • Métaphysique A - Aristote - Grec


* Le Banquet I see that we are supposed to have this in Lewes according to the list below, But I can not find it. In Lewes University, I see stuff like:
Citation:
"The Nicomachean Ethics: I - The Study of the Good - Aristotle - Greek" - Read
"The Nicomachean Ethics: III - Courage and Temperance - Aristotle - Greek" - Read
"Timée - Platon - Grec" - Read
"La République - Platon - Grec" - Read

and
Citation:
Work on:

● Some stuf on Aristoteles : aquired.
● The Good : aquired.
○ Virtue : 50%
○ Temperance : 50%
○ Logique : 59%
○ Les sens de l'Etre : 59%

That is it - there is no Le Banquet in there that I can see. It is under a different name. Anyone know what that name is?

** Metaphysics A I noticed this was the first in the ones that are opposing.... Notice how the list is structured? It is in order. We all have 5 items in our Transcendental Menu. I am sure it is the order they are in that is important


*********************************************************

Something else too. In this window:
Citation:
Work on:

● Some stuf on Aristoteles : aquired.
● The Good : aquired.
○ Virtue : 50%
○ Temperance : 50%
○ Logique : 59%
○ Les sens de l'Etre : 59%

I have to ask, what does Logique do for my character? Is that good to learn for a URACE Bishop? How about the Les sens de l'Etre? I imagine one of those two are the Le Banquet

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Since I am at it, this part here:

Citation:
Work on:

○ Morale
○ Theology
Daily fees (participation to the maintenance costs): 5,00 pounds


What does it do for a player? What do I tell teh people that are becoming L-3 CW? How does it work?


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  • Aristotle

    • Métaphysique A / Metaphysics A (Greek >65%)

      • Artois
      • Baden
      • Champagne
      • Cornwall
      • Flandres
      • Franche-Comté
      • Savoie
      • Wiltshire

    • Métaphysique E / Metaphysics E (Greek >85%)

      • Bourgogne

    • Métaphysique G / Metaphysics G (Greek >85%)

      • Alençon
      • Anjou
      • Bretagne
      • Touraine

    • Métaphysique Z / Metaphysics Z (Greek >85%)

      • Bourbon-Auvergne

    • Poétique / Poetics (Greek)

      • Artois
      • Bourbon-Auvergne
      • Bourgogne
      • Franche-Comté
      • Languedoc
      • Maine
      • Orléanais
      • Périgord
      • Savoie

    • Physique / Physics (Greek >50%)

      • Bourbon-Auvergne
      • Franche-Comté

    • The Nicomachean Ethics (Greek)

      I - Le bien et le bonheur / The Study of the Good (+ 10% each time you read this volume)

      • Artois
      • Baden
      • Bourgogne
      • Bourbon-Auvergne
      • Flandres
      • Franche-Comté
      • Maine
      • Provence
      • Sussex
      • Touraine

      II - La vertu / The Virtue (+ 11% each time you read this volume)

      • Alençon
      • Baden
      • Berry
      • Bretagne
      • Champagne
      • Limousin
      • Périgord
      • Provence
      • Savoie
      • Touraine
      • Wiltshire

      III - Le courage et la tempérance / Courage and Temperance (+ 13% each time you read this volume)

      • Alençon
      • Anjou
      • Bretagne
      • Cornwall
      • Languedoc
      • Normandie
      • Savoie
      • Sussex
      • Worcester
      • Württemberg

      IV - Les différentes vertus / The Other Virtues (+ 11% each time you read this volume)

      • Anjou
      • Bourgogne
      • Bourbon-Auvergne
      • Languedoc
      • Limousin
      • Lyonnais-Dauphiné
      • Normandie
      • Périgord
      • Somerset
      • Wiltshire

      V - La justice / Justice (+ 14% each time you read this volume)

      • Artois
      • Berry
      • Cornwall
      • Flandres
      • Franche-Comté
      • Lyonnais-Dauphiné
      • Maine
      • Orléanais
      • Poitou
      • Savoie
      • Worcester

      VIII - L'amitié / Friendship (+ 15% each time you read this volume)

      • Bourbon-Auvergne
      • Champagne
      • Flandres
      • Orléanais
      • Poitou
      • Somerset
      • Württemberg

      X - Le vrai bonheur / The True Pleasure

      • Alençon
      • Anjou
      • Bretagne
      • Champagne
      • Flandres
      • Languedoc
      • Savoie
      • Touraine

  • Plato

    • La Banquet / The Banquet (Greek >60%)

      • Anjou
      • Bretagne
      • Cornwall
      • Sussex
      • Wiltshire

    • Timée / Timaeus (Greek >70%)

      • Anjou
      • Baden
      • Bourgogne
      • Cornwall
      • Franche-Comté
      • Sussex

    • La République / The Republic (Greek + English >65%)

      • Baden
      • Bourbon-Auvergne
      • Cornwall
      • Limousin
      • Wiltshire

    • Parménide / Parmenides (Greek)

      • Anjou
      • Artois
      • Bretagne
      • Champagne
      • Flandres
      • Limousin
      • Touraine


  • Seneca

    • De providentia / On providence (Latin)

      • Artois
      • Franche-Comté
      • Orléanais
      • Wiltshire


  • Cicero

    • De natura deorum / The Nature of the Gods (Latin)

      • Alençon
      • Bourbon-Auvergne
      • Bretagne
      • Languedoc
      • Limousin
      • Touraine


[Royaume de France] :: [Saint Empire Germanique] :: [Kingdom of England] :: [Heiliges Römisches Reich]

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MessagePosté le: Lun Déc 25, 2006 1:01 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

The RL English name for Le Banquet is the famous Symposium (I've read IRL). We have it (and Métaphysique) in Wiltshire:

Citation:
"The Nicomachean Ethics: II - The Virtue - Aristotle - Greek" - Read
"The Nicomachean Ethics: IV - Les différentes vertus - Aristotle - Greek" - Read
"De providentia - Sénèque - Latin" - Read

"Métaphysique Α - Aristote - Grec" - Read"La Banquet - Platon - Grec" - Read
"La République - Platon - Grec" - Read


Aristotelian 'Logic' (Logique) was the basis of the Scholastics, especially Aquinas' work so it is plausible that CW should learn it. What it 'does' I don't know yet.

'Sense of Being' (Les sens de l'Etre) is impotant to Christianity (for instance, its in the creed "One in being with the Father"). Aristotle's theory on this again was a great effect on Aquinas.

The Symposium (La Banquet) doesn't cover really cover either subject. I concerns (pederastic) love. Though the concept of 'Platonic friendship' is from this book.

invisible007 a écrit:

In the Worcester, we have only lessons in "logique" and "Some stuf on Aristoteles". No student of the church possesses knowledge in "Le commencement du monde [The Beginning of the World] " and "Les sens de l'Etre [Sense of Being] ".
These 2 skills are necessary for better efficiency of the sermons.


Perhaps Logique and Les sens de l'Etre have something to do with preaching?

Citation:
Work on:
○ Morale
○ Theology
Daily fees (participation to the maintenance costs): 5,00 pounds
I never actually tried this out.

Maybe I'll look into the rest latter and do some research.
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MessagePosté le: Lun Déc 25, 2006 5:36 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Apocas a écrit:

Perhaps Logique and Les sens de l'Etre have something to do with preaching?


Yes.

The number of "points of the divine truth" (points de vérité divine, or PVD in french) acquired by preaching depends on the number of skills in "Theology" (Ontothéologie in french).
A preacher with 4 skills will win more than a preacher with only 1 skill.

Apocas a écrit:

I never actually tried this out.

Maybe I'll look into the rest latter and do some research.


No student in the way of the church has these skills in these knowledge. It is thus necessary to find alone.
The probability is very weak: 1/20 by day of search.
I have tried 20 times, in vain Sad
So, I called for help Wink
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MessagePosté le: Mar Déc 26, 2006 10:16 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Where is Plato's Kriteas???
Why isnt Homerus in this row?
And where are the french and English titles (i know there arnt many but still)?
Where are the works of Fransesca Petrarca?
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MessagePosté le: Mar Déc 26, 2006 10:45 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

dishredir a écrit:
Where is Plato's Kriteas???


Since Critias is a short unfinished work, so its usally added to Timaeus . So to answer your question, Cornwall and Sussex.

dishredir a écrit:
Why isnt Homerus in this row?


Homer's works are mostly about war. Not needed by peaceful churchmen.

dishredir a écrit:
And where are the french and English titles (i know there arnt many but still)?


Not coded yet, I supose.

dishredir a écrit:
Where are the works of Fransesca Petrarca?


We have no need for a "Modern". Wink
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ok now, I have reread The Transcendental Menu: the ideas and how to understand them. #2 (ideas and books we are to follow) and #3 (opposing ideas to avoid) are the exact same thing - what in thee heck is going on???? - Slams head into keyboard. I mean even if you look at what those books listed give you as far as ideas are concerned, it leaves open the very next questions, "what are the other books for?" and "why would you learn them or not learn them?" These books here (I think?)
    Parménide / Parmenides
    The Nicomachean Ethics I, II, III, IV, V, and VIII
    Aristotle Métaphysique __ / Metaphysics E,G and Z

Question Question Question Question Confused Question Question Confused Question Question

Well here is my progress:
    Master of Latin: 29%
    Master of ancien Greek: 95%
    Master of English Language: 10%


    Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
    The Good : 100 %
    Virtue : 50 %
    Temperance : 50 %
    Logique : 59 %
    Les sens de l'Etre : 59 %


My next guess would be for us to have one of the other members of our fold in France to come here and teach us the ones we need. Like :
    Physique / Physics - France
    De natura deorum - Cicéron - France
    Poétique - Aristotle - France
    Le vrai bonheur / The True Pleasure - France

I believe we have an Englishman that can teach us Latin so we can take care of that without delaying the professor anymore then we need to .....right?
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