L'Eglise Aristotelicienne Romaine The Roman and Aristotelic Church

[Kalixtus]

We all know your unwillingness to respect and obey the laws. Therefore, your comment is not surprising to anyone here.

The Dean cannot make these decisions and therefore it is illegal.

I am sure Dean Roderic will quickly clear this issue and cure the change to normal. Quite unproblematic and without your cynicism, dear Cardinal de Nivellus.

Although we are all delighted at your return. Take the time you need to read up properly everywhere. Know that I am always watching you, to surprise you with a joke.

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[Tymothé de Nivellus]

I hope I can take a bath and go to the latrine without being watched...
No need to reread the minutes of the discussions... I'll take care of my congregation, I'll leave it to you to vote for changing the name of this office... and if you could repaint the walls... that won't do no harm, if you need a budget for the decoration do not hesitate to request it from the Apostolic Chamber...
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Père Tymothé de Nivellus | Cardinal-Evêque de Saint Trufaldini à la Porte Latine | Camerlingue de Rome et Chancelier de la Chambre Apostolique | Archevêque SC d'Avignon et Archevêque d'Embrun
"La puissance de Dieu donne toute sa mesure dans la faiblesse"
Cabinet du Cardinal

[Kalixtus]

I assure you, old friend, there is nothing about you that could still entertain or interest me. But I still wish you a healthy bowel movement, because at your age you have to be careful not to kick the bucket when you push.

I also thank you for the generous offer. I think a renovation will then be arranged by Dean Roderic, if necessary. Probably a cleaning first though, the dust is likely to be very thick after so long of inactivity in this office.

So we finally came to an agreement, which is good news and shows that we both want the same thing in the end. There is no reason for unnecessary disputes.

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[Tymothé de Nivellus]

My Brother, My interventions are in a way my way of expressing how much I missed you during my absence. And it was time for me to come back to remind you that you are neither Dean nor Pope... in my opinion you may have taken up too much space and comfort in my absence. Even Cathelineau gives you long hugs..
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Père Tymothé de Nivellus | Cardinal-Evêque de Saint Trufaldini à la Porte Latine | Camerlingue de Rome et Chancelier de la Chambre Apostolique | Archevêque SC d'Avignon et Archevêque d'Embrun
"La puissance de Dieu donne toute sa mesure dans la faiblesse"
Cabinet du Cardinal

[Felipe...]

On the one hand, I wish some of our brother cardinals would stop hyperventilating and behaving histrionically over the name of an office. On the other hand, I would like to be informed where in canon law there is a regulation on the naming of offices, the colour of the walls and the fabric of the curtains. I have not been able to find it.

It seems that vital importance is being attached to a purely aesthetic and commemorative matter. The only thing that could be considered inappropriate is for Cardinal Adonnis to use the letterhead and seal of the curia to announce the unveiling of a new plaque nailed to a door. Surely a grave act that undermines the most sacred foundations of Rome.

However, the real problem is that one person among us disagrees because the honoree was his political enemy within the curia. I mean, one more in the long list of rivals he has. He can't stand other people being honoured except him. In other words, a bit of envy, a very common sin among humans, which we have all frequently fallen into. I recommend going to a confessional, act of contrition and penance. With that, this problem would be solved.

Finally, I find it very inappropriate and offensive to state what the new dean is going to do or should do. Does Cardinal Roderic not have his own criteria?
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_______.______Sanctae Mariae Rotundae cardinalis episcopus | Archiepiscopus Burdigalensis
__________..Secretarius brevium ad Principes | Sanctae Sedis Vice-cancillarius et Magnus Auditor

[Kalixtus]

If you are going to talk about me, Cardinal Felipe, then have the decency to call me by my name and if you are going to tell fairy tales, then announce it beforehand, because then the working people in the Curia can confidently do something else.

That you will defend your bosom friend Adonnis is no wonder.

But let me remind you that this debate has the approval of several cardinals and is not my consideration alone.

Where in Canon Law does it say that the Dean is allowed to besmirch an office he occupies for a short time with his personal decisions?

Correct - it doesn't say anywhere. It is a matter of course that you do not arbitrarily rename names and official plaques in offices that are not part of your property.

It is this arrogant practice of a man who thinks he can bring about a decision of the Curia over the will of the Curia. The Dean does not have this power and must have his decisions legitimised by the Curia.

Fact!

Nothing changes even if you have the cheek to claim the biggest bullshit of all here. Envy. Gropius only became dean for the majority of his term because I decided to support him. There is no envy in that.

The relationship between Arduino and me, you cannot judge at all, you cannot judge anything, and do not dare to believe again that you would recognise even a hint of truth in the depth of my sentiments.

What connected me and Arduino was far more than you will ever feel so just shut up if you don't know about things.

I have worked here in the Curia far longer and harder than most Cardinals and it is not me who runs to the Pope begging him for positions, titles and any other remuneration.

I am undoubtedly one of the few cardinals who does not have to puff himself up to document my achievements, Cardinal Felipe. It's a different story with you.

The name must go or be legitimised by the Curia. That is a fact.

If you and your bosom friends think you should venerate Gropius or declare him a saint, write a hagiography and dedicate a fountain to him, preferably in the suburbs, so that everyone can see how glorious Gropius was.

Ridiculous plum. You should learn, to wash your mouth befor you dare talking to me with your dirty minds and unfounded prejudices. You know nothing about me and you stand here with your what? 2 decades? and dare to condemn a cardinal who has already worked for the church, when you were still shitting in your nappies.

I loved Arduino more than it did the Church any good. I sponsored him and he sponsored me. We were a constellation together. Long before you ever found your way to Rome. He was never my political enemy. The injuries we inflicted on each other have a much deeper emotional component. But I can say of myself, out of so many others here and even towards you, I knew Arduino better and knew sides that you never knew about.

Don't you dare pretend you even know anything, young Cardinal. Your words are the venom of a snake but I have my experiences with vicious snakes.

Perhaps no one would have objected if Adonnis had asked the Curia in the regular way. Perhaps we would have moved on to recognise the merits and perhaps I would have kept quiet about all the hypocrisy that is then told by people who have cried to me long and hard about Arduino's behaviour.

Perhaps I would have been lenient if Adonnis had admitted his mistake here and simply asked the Curia afterwards. But he persisted in his arrogant, curia-despising position.

His two snakes now come to assist the black mamba but I fear not your bites. In terms of theatrics - you have learned a lot from me recently, young Cardinal Felipe.

He who sits in a glass house should not throw stones or don't fear the broken pieces.

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[Felipe...]

And here we have the second and third sins: pride and anger.- Felipe smiled slightly from his seat.
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_______.______Sanctae Mariae Rotundae cardinalis episcopus | Archiepiscopus Burdigalensis
__________..Secretarius brevium ad Principes | Sanctae Sedis Vice-cancillarius et Magnus Auditor

[Kalixtus]

And what will you show the world: Haughtiness in its most exclusive form. Don't think you can hide yourself, my eyes are on exactly what you are doing.

In my part of the world we say: Haughtiness comes before a fall.

Kalixtus looked straight at Felipe. His eyes were cold and the former warmth of friendship he could afford for the child, as a ward of the Pope whose ministrations had accompanied the Spaniard's career, was gone for good.

They say the creature tends to tempt people. One might think it has reduced you to its tool to produce just that in me.

I will grant you the point that your incompetence and haughtiness arouse inappropriate feelings in me. But you should consider whether it suits you to spread your legs for the creature who uses you to tempt me.

Kalixtus smiled malicious towards the child.

As long as you feel good with something like that in you.
In the end, this debate will be decided in 2 days so far. With your approval or not. Nobody cares if you express your loyalty to your dead friend or not.

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[Felipe...]

Felipe did not answer, but simply sat there with his hands in his lap and his face serene. All he had to do was to let the German speak for as long as he wished for the other cardinals to come to a conclusion about him.

He, on his part, would clearly adhere to the final decision of the sacred college.
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_______.______Sanctae Mariae Rotundae cardinalis episcopus | Archiepiscopus Burdigalensis
__________..Secretarius brevium ad Principes | Sanctae Sedis Vice-cancillarius et Magnus Auditor

[Roderic_]

I do not consider the exchange you are having to be relevant and befitting of your dignities.

And since there is no consensus on this issue, I will call for a vote on whether to keep the name of the office or leave it unnamed, as it has been until now. Unless, of course, someone has a suggestion for a new name to put to a vote.
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[Kalixtus]

Why not giving it a Name of one of the Apostles or Scholarchs that have done so much for our church and faith.

I would like to honor more of their substancial and fundamental work as a true reminder for the Dean and the position he has as mediator and coordinator of the Sacred Collegue and therefore the whole Church.

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