L'Eglise Aristotelicienne Romaine The Roman and Aristotelic Church

[swampi]

i am a new priest with my first church in ardencaple, glasgow, scotland

i have recently been asked to do a baptism for a young fellow of the nngo wanting to marry his love, she is already baptized

his lady love is a friend of mine and he asked to be baptized so she could have the wedding of her choice and he would be ready

i have been told by someone else there is a sanction of sorts on nngo members and they cannot partake of church sacraments.
i have looked everywhere i know of and find no such info.

is this true that nngo are denied sacraments ?
also where would i find such listings for sanctioned groups such as them and is there a list of their individual names ?

thank you
mother swampi

[koolike101]

Reverand mother Swampi

The info given to you is Correct. NNGO is under anthema thus banned for recieving no churchly sacraments besides confession, what they can make.

Sactioned groups. Hmm
Currently I for sure can think of NNGO and WOS, but every criminal organisations is not good, I remember that One requierment to be baptised is not to belong to a criminal organisation.

Hope, that I answered your questions.
Koolike
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[Carolum]

Apart from the fact that these groups are sanctioned, it seems to me unlikely that two persons ask to be baptized explicitly to be able to marry ... in my parish, the new pairs to be able to marry must have showed before that they are real faithful.
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[swampi]

[Flaithbheartach]

"Mother Forbes you do indeed have a dark past, but so do many. The difference between you and the groups under sanction, such as the NNGO and WoS, is that you have repented whereas they continue their dark ways. If a person is to renounce their past deeds and leave their shadowy path then they can of course receive the sacraments, or even join the clergy as you have."
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[swampi]

but flaith

the point i am trying to make is i was like that when i was baptized.

just because i did not belong to such a group made me better then them?

i still recieved the sacraments

u know the young couple i speak of. ......i believe u were her squire at one point if not still




another question i have also.......

why can a baby not be baptised if their parent is a criminal ?

what does it have to do with the innocent child?

and how is one to be deemed a criminal ?
just from the groups they associate with openly ?

do u know how many criminals there are out there with no groups affiliations?

or what of those that belong to these groups secretly ?

is there a list somewhere of these names for one to know who does belong ?

for all i know flaith
you could be one

just what is that secret secret group u been saying u joined in a secret place ?
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[Apocas]

[Flaithbheartach]

"I don't recall anyone here stating that the sacraments weren't to be granted to children with parents of criminal organizations. I think the child can be baptized provided, in accordance with canon law, there is an Aristotelian godparent present. Of course no one can know just what is in everyones heart, but the obstinate sinners are not true followers of Jah if they do not live by the teachings of his prophets, and how can one claim to be a good Aristotelian and thus partake in the benefits of the Aristotelian community if they live a lifestyle against those teachings?"



((ooc: Remember the RK wiki is OOC. But the group is a non-violent, non-criminal, secret organization dedicated to ensuring good quality in the community. Oh and thanks for reading my page in the wiki. ))
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[swampi]

[Josephus]

Mother Swampi, a person cannot just happen to be a member of a certain organization without adhering to their principles/purpose. If the young man you mentioned really desires to be baptized, he has to publicly denounce his allegiance with the NNGO.

Your questions are valid but you must also understand that it is impossible to give his allegiance to two conflicting beliefs. One will always be preferred over the other.

[koolike101]

As I stated before the young man can always confess, and then after penance if he has killed (NOT in the straightest meaning) all the connections what tie him to anykind of criminal organisation he may then be baptized.
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[swampi]

hello josephus. it is nice to see u again.


forgive me for being persistant here in info on the nngo itself

arden is where they currently base their home even tho most are at the dealings going on in carlisle, so u can understand my concerns for them as a whole
i believe you are in carlisle atm, are u not ? you must spend time in the taverns there to have a first hand knowledge on the individuals in this group

[Apocas]

[swampi]

i serve on the glasgow cc here
i have been requested to ask a question of this body

[Apocas]