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Eregen



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MessagePosté le: Jeu Nov 19, 2015 7:19 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I whispers some little things just for your sake.

Kiscsillag a écrit:
You don't even know the name of it. Sometimes it autocephalous, then aristotelic, then national, then ortodox.


I was hoping not to have to give this information but I knew that our official name is 'Holy Hungarian Aristotelian Autocephalous Church'. This church is an easten-rite or in an other name Byzantine rite church. These are ortheos doxos (ortodox) churches.

Kiscsillag a écrit:
Mission? Without canon law, dogma?


The fact you do not see our canon law is not meaning that we have not. So, please, spare me from your guessings.

Kiscsillag a écrit:
to force the IRL greek catholic religion to everyone


I am an orthodox believer. Besides, the Greek Catholic indicator only represents the ethnic Greek Catholics.

Kiscsillag a écrit:
They play their IRL life here. Which would not be a big problem, but they force everyone else to assist them in it.


Hmm... It's a very intresting statement... It assumes that we have not real life... I do not think so that I could deny it because about it is useless to argue.
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Nov 19, 2015 10:07 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Arion a écrit:
The church can fulfill its mission only with the leadership of Sava.

As a Count I made the right decision that time, I would do the same now.


What's he doing here? He does not belong to the church!
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MessagePosté le: Jeu Nov 19, 2015 11:01 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Eregen a écrit:
I was hoping not to have to give this information but I knew that our official name is 'Holy Hungarian Aristotelian Autocephalous Church'. This church is an easten-rite or in an other name Byzantine rite church. These are ortheos doxos (ortodox) churches.


So... Holy Hungarian Aristotelian Autocephalous Church.. I see..

This is us (since 2008) and you (since the summer of 2014.):


This is from you during the audience on this forum:
Eregen a écrit:
Holy Autocephalous Aristotelian Hungarian Church

Eregen a écrit:
recognition of the independent Hungarian Patriarchal Church.


Sava's words:
Sava a écrit:
the Hungarian Church has a great history.

Sava a écrit:
We are Hungarian Aristotelian Church.


So yes... You do it intentionally to trick players, and maybe you have an official name, but you don't like to use it...

Eregen a écrit:
I am an orthodox believer. Besides, the Greek Catholic indicator only represents the ethnic Greek Catholics.

For me it doesn't matter what is your religion, I just guessed based on your "RP" texts full of IRL phrases on the forum. But OK. You're an orthodox and you are forcing IG an eastern orthodox religion to everyone else. Thank you for clearing it up.

Eregen a écrit:
The fact you do not see our canon law is not meaning that we have not. So, please, spare me from your guessings.


I don't guess, but because none of it is available openly, it's really hard to believe in the reality of those baptisms (and ordinations) of 1month old characters what you are doing.... In the name of a "national" church.
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MessagePosté le: Ven Nov 20, 2015 12:48 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Rika0912 a écrit:
Arion a écrit:
The church can fulfill its mission only with the leadership of Sava.

As a Count I made the right decision that time, I would do the same now.


What's he doing here? He does not belong to the church!



Well, that's a big point: they mix competences and intervention to support each other, without boundaries of any kind. But they don't care about rules...
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MessagePosté le: Ven Nov 20, 2015 4:16 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Ok then!

Be quiet or I burn all the churches and cathedral in your kingdom!

Now: I want here the list for the Hungarian area of :

- archbishopric
- bishoprics
- parishes

And what is in which County

THEN


before the last change, who was Bishop in which bishopric and whose Church does he belong to.

Then, just call the Count or the Counts and they will say who they support.

And THEN, I will take my decision.

I I have to read plenty of messages and arguments, I will dismiss all bishops in this area and wait for some months.

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MessagePosté le: Ven Nov 20, 2015 4:57 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Dear Brennos,

first of all, thank you for your time.

We have 3 cities so 3 dioceses & parishes under one archbishopry:

Archdiocese: Esztergom
Dioceses: Veszprém and Győr

Two churches, as this:

Roman Aristotelian
Archbishop of Esztergom - Kiscsillag (RP)
Bishop of Veszprém - Rika0912 (RP)
Bishop of Győr - Eer_geloof (IG) - parish priest Freeman (IG)

Aristotelian Autocephalous
Patriarch and archbishop of Esztergom - Sava (IG)
Bishop of Veszprém - Eregen (IG)
Bishop of Kalocsa - Habsburg_mark (RP) - and parish priest of Esztergom (IG) nominated to be parish priest in Veszprém (IG)

Before this spring the country was Roman Aristotelian and I was the archbishop in Esztergom.
Then Arion the count nominated Sava as archbishop of Esztergom and Sava declared here on this forum and on our national one also that they only want that diocese and the other two can remain under the influence of Rome...

Before the "religion" change it was like this:
Roman Aristotelian
Archbishop of Esztergom - Kiscsillag (IG) - parish Florencee (IG)
Bishop of Veszprém - Rika0912 (IG) - parish Sandor (IG)
Bishop of Győr - Eer_geloof (IG) - parish Freeman (IG)
Bishop of Pécs - Renegade (RP)
Emeritus bishop of Veszprém - Florencee (RP)

Autocephalous
Patriarch of Buda - Sava (RP)
Bishop of Kalocsa - Habsburg_mark (RP)
Bishop of Veszprém - Eregen (RP)

Last change was in Veszprém from Rika0912 (Rome) to Eregen (Autocephalous).
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MessagePosté le: Sam Nov 21, 2015 9:24 am    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Dear Brennos!

Roman Aristotelian Church:
Archdioces of Esztergom: Kiscsillag (RP) - parish priest: Florencee (RP)
Diocese of Veszprém: bishop Rika0912 (RP) - parish priest Sandor: (IG)
Emeritus bishop of Veszprém - Florencee (RP)
Diocese of Győr: bishop Eer_geloof (IG) - parish priest Freeman (IG)
Bishop of Pécs - Renegade (RP)

Hungarian Aristotelian Church:
Patriarch of Buda - Sava (RP)
Archdiochese of Esztergom: Sava (IG) - parish priest: Habsburg_mark (IG)
Archdiocese of Kalocsa: Habsburg_mark (RP)
Bishop of Veszprém: Eregen (IG) - parish priest Sandor (IG)

We insist on the two dioceses (Esztergom and Veszprém). The counts and the chambers are support us more than half a year. (Look at Arion and Shedunul.)

Arion a écrit:
The church can fulfill its mission only with the leadership of Sava.

As a Count I made the right decision that time, I would do the same now.


Shedunul a écrit:
I dont know where is the problem. The admins said you need to built an army ant try to take Esztergom, and the council and the count can write a letter to switch back you to the chair of the archbishop.

(...)

I dont want to change anything before you all make a deal.

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MessagePosté le: Sam Nov 21, 2015 5:29 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Eregen a écrit:
Dear Brennos!

Hungarian Aristotelian Church:
Patriarch of Buda - Sava (RP)
Archdiochese of Esztergom: Sava (IG) - parish Habsburg_mark (IG)
Archdiocese of Kalocsa: Habsburg_mark (RP)
Bishop of Veszprém: Eregen (IG) - parish Sandor (IG)



Sandor is there still, but he is not your parish priest, he is Roman Aristotelic... So he is not part of your church.
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MessagePosté le: Sam Nov 21, 2015 7:31 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

Still he is the parish priest...
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MessagePosté le: Dim Nov 22, 2015 3:14 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

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