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Alienor Catherine
Inscrit le: 20 Déc 2015 Messages: 60
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Posté le: Jeu Nov 30, 2017 10:50 pm Sujet du message: |
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Aliénor had made a few invitations and was very happy to see close people arrive for this special event; Jade, Ginevra, Hildary, Rodrigo... She smiled to them, rejoicing to see them. She warmly nodded to each, feeling emotional. Some friends had not yet arrived, maybe due to a delay of the road but the young woman had for habit to not make wait people for the delay of others. She inclined her head toward His Eminence of Northshire and when he asked Cardinal Fenice if any other guests were expected, she declined from a gesture of the head, adding
Maybe, hazard of the roads may have have slowed them but we shall not delay by respect of those who are ponctual.
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Aliénor aveva fatto alcuni inviti ed era molto felice di vedere arrivare persone vicine per questo evento speciale; Jade, Ginevra, Hildary, Rodrigo... Lei sorrise a loro, rallegrandosi per vederli. Lei annuì calorosamente a ciascuno, sentendosi emozionale. Alcuni amici non erano ancora arrivati, forse a causa di un ritardo della strada, ma la giovane donna aveva l'abitudine di non fare aspettare la gente per il ritardo degli altri. Ha inclinato la testa verso Sua Eminenza del Northshire e quando ha chiesto al Cardinale Fenice se ci fossero stati altri ospiti, ha rifiutato un gesto della testa, aggiungendo
Forse, il pericolo delle strade potrebbe averli rallentati, non potremo ritardare dal rispetto di coloro che sono ponctual.
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Aliénor avait fait quelques invitations et était très heureuse de voir des gens proches arriver pour cet événement spécial; Jade, Ginevra, Hildary, Rodrigo... Elle leur sourit, se réjouissant de les voir. Elle hocha la tête chaleureusement à chacun, se sentant émotive. Certains amis n'étaient pas encore arrivés, peut-être à cause d'un retard de la route mais la jeune femme avait pour habitude de ne pas faire attendre les gens pour le retard des autres. Elle inclina la tête vers Son Eminence de Northshire et quand il demanda au Cardinal Fenice si d'autres invités étaient attendus, elle déclina d'un geste de la tête, ajoutant
Peut-être que le danger des routes les a ralentis mais nous ne devrions pas retarder par respect pour ceux qui sont ponctuels. _________________
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hull Cardinal
Inscrit le: 11 Mai 2009 Messages: 9180 Localisation: Dans les Cieux
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Posté le: Ven Déc 01, 2017 3:10 am Sujet du message: |
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The Cardinal nodded his head in a negative manner.
"Only one document, only one oath my Sister. This day is the day of Aliénor Catherine."
Having said that, he turned towards Aliénor who was now speaking about guests who had not arrived.
"My salutations, dear Daughter. May this day be forever in your memories.
We can wait a bit more." _________________
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Fenice Cardinal
Inscrit le: 19 Déc 2010 Messages: 11964
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Posté le: Ven Déc 01, 2017 8:05 pm Sujet du message: |
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Cardinal Fenice looked at Alienor's belly for a moment and smiled, also recalling the Cardinal's gaze in the same direction.
Eminence Hull, if I understand well, what you said me a few days ago is no longer valid, there will be only one oath ... and therefore, out of respect for the conditions of the lady, I think it is better to start.
She turned to Alienor.
What do you think, my dear? _________________
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Alienor Catherine
Inscrit le: 20 Déc 2015 Messages: 60
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Posté le: Ven Déc 01, 2017 8:49 pm Sujet du message: |
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First responding to the Cardinal of Northshire, Aliénor gently nodded.
Thank you for your kind words Your Eminence, I have no doubt that it will be memorable.
And to the Cardinal Fenice, she added to her suggestion.
I do agree that we shall start.
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Prima rispondendo al cardinale del Northshire, Aliénor annuì dolcemente.
Grazie per le vostre gentili parole Vostra Eminenza, non ho dubbi che sarà memorabile.
E al cardinal Fenice, ha aggiunto il suo suggerimento.
Sono d'accordo che inizieremo.
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Répondant d'abord au Cardinal de Northshire, Aliénor hocha doucement la tête.
Merci pour vos gentils mots, Votre Éminence, je n'ai aucun doute que ce sera mémorable.
Et au Cardinal Fenice, elle ajouta suite à sa suggestion.
Je suis en accord avec vous, nous devrions commencer. _________________
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Fenice Cardinal
Inscrit le: 19 Déc 2010 Messages: 11964
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Posté le: Sam Déc 02, 2017 12:36 am Sujet du message: |
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Very well... so, let's start agreed the Cardinal. I ask everyone to take place.
At that precise moment the organ began to play, while everyone took place for the ceremony.
Slowly, Cardinal Fenice reached the lectern and opened the Book of Virtues, removing the bookmark.
She waited, while the music filled gently the basilica, awakening echoes and resonances. It was easy to find concentration and deep spiritual calm.
At the end of the music, the Cardinal said
Let's read together the First Logion of the Prophet Christos
Citation: | “Nobility is of the soul, and it is within your heart that you must be noble. But know that, even thus, you will be vulnerable, because nobility is often wounded by baseness.” |
She looked up and said
In these words of the Second Prophet we find the deep meaning of the Papal nobility, that is a nobility of heart and soul.
And of Faith, of course, because only the true Faith can help us when we are hurt, offended, even persecuted by those who live in baseness and poverty of mind.
So, Faith is our coat of arms and our hauberk.
For this reason, let's join our voices and repeat all together our profession of Faith, the Credo. I invite you to say the words in Latin, with me.
Credo in Deum,
Altissimum Omnipotentem,
Creatorem caeli et terrae,
Inferos et Paradisi,
Ultima hora animae judicem nostrae
Et in Aristotelem, prophetam,
Nicomaqui Phaetique filium,
Missum ut sapientiam et universi
Divas leges errantibus hominibus erudiret
Credo etiam in Christum,
Natum ex Maria et Ioseph,
Vitam dedit ut nobis paradisi viam monstraret
Sic, postquam sub Pontio passus est
Propter salutem
Nostram martyr perivit
Consecutus est Solem
Ubi Aristoteles ad Altissimi dexteram eum expectabat.
Credo in Divinam Actionem,
Sanctam Ecclesiam aristotelicianam, romanam, unam et indivisibilem
Sanctorum communionem,
Peccatorum remissionem,
Vitam aeternam.
Amen. _________________
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Alienor Catherine
Inscrit le: 20 Déc 2015 Messages: 60
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Posté le: Sam Déc 02, 2017 1:17 am Sujet du message: |
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Aliénor took place near her husband and children when the Cardinal started the ceremony, she felt emotional and tried to focus her attention to the beautiful music coming from the organ. The gestures of the Cardinal seemed slow and full of serenity as she was getting prepared to read to the assembly. The blonde woman listened carefully and couldn’t agree more with the choice of words. She hoped that she would continue be deserving of that noble spirit of the heart and mind. In a firm conviction, she recited the credo.
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Aliénor ha avuto luogo vicino a suo marito e ai suoi figli quando il Cardinale ha iniziato la cerimonia, si è sentita emotiva e ha cercato di focalizzare la sua attenzione sulla bella musica proveniente dall'organo. I gesti del Cardinale sembravano lenti e pieni di serenità mentre si preparava a leggere all'assemblea. La donna bionda ascoltò attentamente e non poteva essere più d'accordo con la scelta delle parole. Sperava che avrebbe continuato a meritare quel nobile spirito del cuore e della mente. In una ferma convinzione, recitò il credo.
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Aliénor prit place près de son mari et de ses enfants lorsque le Cardinal débuta la cérémonie, elle se sentait émue et tenta de concentrer son attention sur la belle musique provenant de l'orgue. Les gestes du Cardinal semblaient lents et pleins de sérénité alors qu'elle s'apprêtait à lire à l'assemblée. La blonde écoutait attentivement et ne pouvait être plus en accord avec le choix des mots. Elle espérait qu'elle continuerait à mériter ce noble esprit de cœur et de l'esprit. Avec une ferme conviction, elle récita le credo.
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Credo in Deum,
Altissimum Omnipotentem,
Creatorem caeli et terrae,
Inferos et Paradisi,
Ultima hora animae judicem nostrae
Et in Aristotelem, prophetam,
Nicomaqui Phaetique filium,
Missum ut sapientiam et universi
Divas leges errantibus hominibus erudiret
Credo etiam in Christum,
Natum ex Maria et Ioseph,
Vitam dedit ut nobis paradisi viam monstraret
Sic, postquam sub Pontio passus est
Propter salutem
Nostram martyr perivit
Consecutus est Solem
Ubi Aristoteles ad Altissimi dexteram eum expectabat.
Credo in Divinam Actionem,
Sanctam Ecclesiam aristotelicianam, romanam, unam et indivisibilem
Sanctorum communionem,
Peccatorum remissionem,
Vitam aeternam.
Amen. _________________
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leonardo_de_chenot
Inscrit le: 05 Nov 2017 Messages: 22
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Posté le: Sam Déc 02, 2017 3:39 pm Sujet du message: |
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Leonardo said the Credo as well.
Credo in Deum,
Altissimum Omnipotentem,
Creatorem caeli et terrae,
Inferos et Paradisi,
Ultima hora animae judicem nostrae
Et in Aristotelem, prophetam,
Nicomaqui Phaetique filium,
Missum ut sapientiam et universi
Divas leges errantibus hominibus erudiret
Credo etiam in Christum,
Natum ex Maria et Ioseph,
Vitam dedit ut nobis paradisi viam monstraret
Sic, postquam sub Pontio passus est
Propter salutem
Nostram martyr perivit
Consecutus est Solem
Ubi Aristoteles ad Altissimi dexteram eum expectabat.
Credo in Divinam Actionem,
Sanctam Ecclesiam aristotelicianam, romanam, unam et indivisibilem
Sanctorum communionem,
Peccatorum remissionem,
Vitam aeternam.
Amen. _________________ E' comune defetto degli uomini, non fare conto, nella bonaccia, della tempesta. (Niccolò Machiavelli)
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Princesssewen
Inscrit le: 18 Sep 2012 Messages: 11
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Posté le: Sam Déc 02, 2017 8:51 pm Sujet du message: |
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Préparés à la hâte, nous n’avions pas réussi à arriver à l’heure pour la cérémonie à laquelle nous avions étés conviés Sacrai et moi.
Introduits par le chambellan qui nous jeta un regard réprobateur à cause de notre retard, nous avions décliné nos identités
et nous entrâmes après l’énoncé de nos noms.
Sacrai d'Eirbal, Comte de Saint-Sauveur, Burgrave d'Andenne et Princess Séwen d’Amencey, Vicomtesse de Lungau.
Nous entrâmes dans la Basilique en catimini, prenant place au milieux des autres invités.
Ensuite nous entonnâmes le credo avec l’assemblée.
Credo in Deum,
Altissimum Omnipotentem,
Creatorem caeli et terrae,
Inferos et Paradisi,
Ultima hora animae judicem nostrae
Et in Aristotelem, prophetam,
Nicomaqui Phaetique filium,
Missum ut sapientiam et universi
Divas leges errantibus hominibus erudiret
Credo etiam in Christum,
Natum ex Maria et Ioseph,
Vitam dedit ut nobis paradisi viam monstraret
Sic, postquam sub Pontio passus est
Propter salutem
Nostram martyr perivit
Consecutus est Solem
Ubi Aristoteles ad Altissimi dexteram eum expectabat.
Credo in Divinam Actionem,
Sanctam Ecclesiam aristotelicianam, romanam, unam et indivisibilem
Sanctorum communionem,
Peccatorum remissionem,
Vitam aeternam.
Amen.
( en accord avec le LJD Sacrai )
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Prepared hastily, we had not managed to arrive on time for the ceremony to which we had been invited Sacrai and me.
Introduced by the chamberlain, who gave us a disapproving look because of our tardiness, we declined our identities, and entered after saying our names.
Sacrai d'Eirbal, Count of Saint-Sauveur, Burgrave of Andenne and Princess Sewen d’Amencey, Viscountess of Lungau.
We entered the Basilica on the sly, taking a seat in the middle of the other guests. Then we intoned the credo with the assembly.
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hildary
Inscrit le: 01 Mai 2017 Messages: 48
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Posté le: Sam Déc 02, 2017 11:34 pm Sujet du message: |
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elle récita le credo.
Credo in Deum,
Altissimum Omnipotentem,
Creatorem caeli et terrae,
Inferos et Paradisi,
Ultima hora animae judicem nostrae
Et in Aristotelem, prophetam,
Nicomaqui Phaetique filium,
Missum ut sapientiam et universi
Divas leges errantibus hominibus erudiret
Credo etiam in Christum,
Natum ex Maria et Ioseph,
Vitam dedit ut nobis paradisi viam monstraret
Sic, postquam sub Pontio passus est
Propter salutem
Nostram martyr perivit
Consecutus est Solem
Ubi Aristoteles ad Altissimi dexteram eum expectabat.
Credo in Divinam Actionem,
Sanctam Ecclesiam aristotelicianam, romanam, unam et indivisibilem
Sanctorum communionem,
Peccatorum remissionem,
Vitam aeternam.
Amen. |
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hull Cardinal
Inscrit le: 11 Mai 2009 Messages: 9180 Localisation: Dans les Cieux
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Posté le: Lun Déc 04, 2017 3:37 am Sujet du message: |
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(...)
Credo in Divinam Actionem,
Sanctam Ecclesiam aristotelicianam, romanam, unam et indivisibilem
Sanctorum communionem,
Peccatorum remissionem,
Vitam aeternam.
Amen!
The Cardinal then silently prayed. After all, he was letting Fenice do what she had requested, instead of following the previous customs. Innovation at its finest.
Once that was done, he addressed the assembly in ceremonious manner.
"The Holy Father, in his great magnanimity, has decided that we, the servants of God, may be honored for our deeds and acts by concession and gifts. Theses gifts are of the highest merit, given only by the Pope unless. That is, until he granted us with a Papal Bull and the creation of the Pontifical Colleges of Heraldry. As such, today, we are present because a Roman Cardinal has the limited right to concede titles within the Senatorial Order."
He looked upon the Assembly, his eyes gazing upon the witnesses.
"The requesting Cardinal is hereby asked to come forward and announce, before witnesses and ourselves, in the name of His Holiness, his or her name, and to decline the title that he or she wishes to grant!" _________________
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Fenice Cardinal
Inscrit le: 19 Déc 2010 Messages: 11964
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Posté le: Lun Déc 04, 2017 10:17 am Sujet du message: |
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Cardinal Fenice, hearing the words spoken by Hull in the role of Herald, advanced with a certain solemnity and addressing those present, said
For the powers conferred on me by the Holy Father, His Holiness Innocentius VIII, I Fenice Maria Helena Deversi-Aslan Borgia wish to grant to Aliénor Catherine Hypatie de Cetzes de Chenot the title of Palatine Countess of St. John in Lateran.
She is an honorable woman and has served the Church and the Holy See with humility, wisdom and faithfulness, without asking for honors or recognition.
Her disinterested devotion therefore deserves ennobling. _________________
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hull Cardinal
Inscrit le: 11 Mai 2009 Messages: 9180 Localisation: Dans les Cieux
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Posté le: Mer Déc 06, 2017 7:27 pm Sujet du message: |
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Hull smiled and, looking at the Assembly, gave a theatrical gesture.
"A person has been named. A full name is given, and we ask she to come forward.
Aliénor Catherine Hypatie de Cetzes de Chenot, my child of God, come before us both." _________________
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Alienor Catherine
Inscrit le: 20 Déc 2015 Messages: 60
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Posté le: Mer Déc 06, 2017 7:49 pm Sujet du message: |
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Following the credo, the Cardinal of Northshire went on to explain briefly the functioning of the papal nobility and then asked Cardinal Fenice to say the name and the title to give, which she did, justifying her choice. The Cardinal of Northshire then called her, with a theatrical gesture that surprised the blonde. She advanced in front of the two cardinals, trying to wiggle as little as possible to hide her penguin gait at the end of pregnancy.
Here I am Your Eminence.
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Suite au credo, le Cardinal de Northshire enchaîna en expliquant brièvement le fonctionnement de la noblesse papale puis demanda au Cardinal Fenice de dire le nom et le titre à donner, ce qu'elle fit, en justifiant son choix. Le Cardinal de Northshire l'appela ensuite, avec un geste théâtral qui surprit la blonde. Elle s'avança devant les deux cardinaux, tentant de se dandiner le moins possible pour dissimuler sa démarche de pingouin en cette fin de grossesse.
Me voici Votre Eminence.
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Seguendo il credo, il Cardinale del Northshire proseguì spiegando brevemente il funzionamento della nobiltà papale e poi chiese al Cardinale Fenice di dire il nome e il titolo da dare, cosa che fece, giustificando la sua scelta. Lo chiamò allora il Cardinale del Northshire, con un gesto teatrale che sorprese la bionda. Avanzò di fronte ai due Cardinali, cercando di divincolarsi il meno possibile per nascondere la sua andatura di pinguino alla fine della gravidanza.
Eccomi, Vostra Eminenza. _________________
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hull Cardinal
Inscrit le: 11 Mai 2009 Messages: 9180 Localisation: Dans les Cieux
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Posté le: Jeu Déc 07, 2017 11:43 pm Sujet du message: |
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The Cardinal looked at Aliénor and invited her to face the Assembly.
"Aliénor Catherine Hypatie de Cetzes de Chenot, my child of God, do you deem yourself worthy of the honour that the Cardinal Borgia wishes to grant upon yourself?" _________________
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Alienor Catherine
Inscrit le: 20 Déc 2015 Messages: 60
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Posté le: Ven Déc 08, 2017 12:20 am Sujet du message: |
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The Cardinal invited her to face the assembly and asked her if she was worthy of the honor granted by Cardinal Fenice.
I consider it is not up to the humble servant to decide if he is worthy of the honor that he is given. Like the priest Lodovicus well said, humility is the base of the faith. Thus, it is with the most strict humility that I accept this great honor granted to me.
Citation: | This humility we must learn, it is the humus of faith. Faith without humility does not bear fruit, it remains thin and pride, enclosing our heart, makes it slowly die: to attach ourselves to the Church, to which we no longer communion, there remains only the habit, functions, titles, honorability and ambition; all that binds us to the world and cuts us off from God by flattering our pride. |
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Le Cardinal l'invita à faire face à l'assemblée et lui demanda si elle était digne de l'honneur accordé par le Cardinal Fenice.
Je considère que ce n'est pas à l'humble serviteur de décider s'il est digne de l'honneur qui lui est donné. Comme l'a bien dit le prêtre Lodovicus, l'humilité est la base de la foi. C'est donc avec l'humilité la plus stricte que j'accepte ce grand honneur qui m'est accordé.
Citation: | Cette humilité que nous devons apprendre, elle est l’humus de la foi. La foi sans l’humilité ne porte pas de fruit, elle reste maigre et l’orgueil, enserrant notre cœur, la fait lentement mourir : pour nous attacher à l’Eglise, à laquelle nous ne communions plus, il ne reste plus que l’habitude, les fonctions, les titres, l’honorabilité et l’ambition ; tout ce qui nous attache au monde et nous coupe de Dieu en flattant notre orgueil. |
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Il Cardinale la invitò ad affrontare l'assemblea e le chiese se fosse degna dell'onore concesso dal Cardinale Fenice.
Considero che non è compito dell'umile servitore decidere se è degno dell'onore che gli è stato dato. Come ha ben detto il prete Lodovicus, l'umiltà è la base della fede. Pertanto, è con la più stretta umiltà che accetto questo grande onore concesso a me.
Citation: | Questa umiltà che dobbiamo apprendere è l'humus, il terreno fertile della fede. La fede senza l'umiltà non porta alcun frutto, resta magra e l'orgoglio, stringendo il nostro cuore, la fa lentamente morire: per legarci alla Chiesa, con la quale non saremmo più in comunione, non ci resterebbe che l'abitudine, le funzioni, i titoli, l'onorabilità e l'ambizione; tutto ciò che ci lega al mondo, altro non fa che tagliare il nostro rapporto con Dio e gonfiare il nostro orgoglio. |
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