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Blazingwill
Inscrit le: 04 Avr 2016 Messages: 1443 Localisation: Salisbury, Devon (England)
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Posté le: Mer Juil 03, 2019 4:58 pm Sujet du message: |
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Monderakalbarrasin a écrit: | So, today we begin to travel, and my colleagues are all in my group after getting off the boat, we will travel according to the map to Halsting and then the next village, we will observe the lack of churches and I will register. |
Be cautious on the road, there are some gangs. Also, I advise you write to each count to inform of your journey as they are currently on the look out. Wait for the right of passage to prevent that they take you for members of the rebellious groups. _________________
Metropolitan Archbishop of Canterbury | Marquess of Exminster | Earl of Bassetlaw | Viscount of Osney
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Mer Juil 03, 2019 5:03 pm Sujet du message: |
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Pefect, Thank You Brother _________________
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Jolieen
Inscrit le: 28 Mai 2018 Messages: 3052
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Posté le: Mer Juil 03, 2019 5:57 pm Sujet du message: |
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As soon as we have a list I will suggest some names for the churches. Being active and creative is something that really cheers me. _________________
Cardinal-Deacon of the British Isles -Bishop In Partibus of Lamia - Prefect to the Villa of St.Loyat - Expert to the pontificial collages of Heraldry - Assessor to the Developing Churches |
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Mer Juil 03, 2019 6:01 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thank you Sister Joileen, I will upload what I find in each villa and based on that we work Res Parendo with the construction and the requests for its approval _________________
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Jolieen
Inscrit le: 28 Mai 2018 Messages: 3052
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Posté le: Mer Juil 03, 2019 6:07 pm Sujet du message: |
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As Cardinal Deacon I am of course very intressted in passing you any needed help regarding this matter but I hope we find ways to ensure such activities by ourselves. _________________
Cardinal-Deacon of the British Isles -Bishop In Partibus of Lamia - Prefect to the Villa of St.Loyat - Expert to the pontificial collages of Heraldry - Assessor to the Developing Churches |
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Mer Juil 03, 2019 6:12 pm Sujet du message: |
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Without a doubt, it is to find the motivation that helps not only the religious feel important in their pastoral work, but the way that the same activity leads the faithful to approach the Res Parendo churches, and that is my motive in this trip. , not only crusade as a member of Santos Armies, but also help in pastoral life in those areas that are complicated or that do not know how to solve this stagnation, without obstructing local beliefs, obviously, but that all have their place not only in Gratibus, but also Participate in the active life Res Parendo, I will not lose anything in trying, but we are the ones who defend our Aristotelian Faith no one else will do it for everyone, at least the first step is on the way, if we all contribute a grain of sand from our place all it is possible and easier _________________
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Mer Juil 03, 2019 6:17 pm Sujet du message: |
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Here in forum2 of england, I have a structure built, who wants to see it I give access, I have moderation of the forum _________________
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 12:14 pm Sujet du message: |
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Dover (Sussex (Domaine Royal)) Tuesday 2 July 1467 |
Citation: | Province of Southwark
Diócesis metropolitanas : Archdiocese of Southwark Greenwich
Diócesis sufragáneas :
Diocese of Brighton
Diocese of Portsmouth
Archdiocese of Southwark Greenwich
(It depends on the province of Southwark, led by the metropolitan bishop Staleno)
Archbishop: Staleno
The mandate of the bishop ends in 2 months and 13 days
The King invests the bishop
Parish of Dover
Current time: 14:54 GMT
Teagan Cure
Archdiocese of Southwark Greenwich
The diocese is headed by Archbishop Staleno
Capital of the diocese: Dover
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Citation: | Citation: | Hastings, capital del Sussex (Domaine Royal) Jueves 4 Julio 1467 |
Hastings Parish
Current time: 10:12 GMT
Cure Staleno
Archdiocese of Southwark Greenwich
The diocese is headed by Archbishop Staleno
Capital of the diocese: Dover |
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Lacine
Inscrit le: 17 Mai 2018 Messages: 159
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 4:32 pm Sujet du message: |
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Welcome to the British Isles Brother! Finally, after more than a year of presenting yourself here, you are able to set foot on our humble land. But aren't you an island short of your goal?
Monderakalbarrasin a écrit: | Welcome brother, Cinead, I am Monderak de Albarrasin, Grand Master of the Templar Order of San Bernardo of Hispanic lands, and forerunner of this new project of the Order of Saint Patrick in the lands of Ireland, although I belong to the Hispanic lands of the Kingdom of Aragon, We want to expand the Aristotelian faith in the land of Ireland, as headquarters rather in Lios Mor, since several Hispanics have moved into that small city, we wanted to take advantage of doctrine in those lands, and for now we are knowing and seeing the different situations while we achieve that some local religious accompany us and help us, and your name recently Cardinal Vanyar himself has told us about you to give him points of trust. Nice to meet you in person |
We were made to believe that you and your order wish 'to expand the Aristotelian faith in the land of Ireland'. What happened to your goal and even to your order? Does it still even exist? You have to forgive my inquiries because it seems that your quest has turned out to be a pilgrimage to England and nothing more. _________________
And restless is my heart until it rest in thee. [Bishop of Carlisle] |
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 5:10 pm Sujet du message: |
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Nice to see you Brother and I have no problems in clarifying your doubts and I hope to get rid of concerns and your questions do not bother, on the contrary, it is the interesting way to interact and work together
First of all, as an appointment, we are in the formation of a Templar Order whose chosen headquarters is Lios Mor, in Ireland, as if to have a physical place and whose Aristotelian work, if the Most High helps us and guides us with religious and people of faith to accompany us, work in relation to what is needed or help to solve the problems for minors in all the British Isles
For this reason, my trip in the person and the approval of our Chancellor of the Holy Exercises, is my intention to make a pilgrimage to all the villages of the British island, sea England, Scotland and Ireland, to know how is our Aristotelian faith and the work that is carried out only with the religious in this subject, as Brother Blazingwill said, these areas do not have Aristotelianism as their official religion and as there is no clash with local ideologies, it is the attempt to interact with the religious or the same Primacy of England through Sister Jolieen who shares our project
That is why I repeat, physically is to finish putting together the Order of St. Patrick in Ireland, and while this trip takes me to destination, I take my pilgrimage to England and I look forward to arriving in Scotland as well, to complete this project that motivates me , more if it is a special mission with the blessing of the Congregation.
For that reason I wish to have good Aristotelians and active regardless of the geographical area of the islands, whether England, Scotland or Ireland, among all those who can share the Aristotelian desire we can do much to raise churches, res parendo, form new Aristotelian religious, so celebrate sacraments and masses at the Res level It is what our faithful want, that they know that the Church never forgets them and that is what I want to accomplish on this trip and after going through two defenses to the dioceses of Artois and from Rennes, share those experiences with my brothers from the British Isles
I do not know what else I can add, anything else that you want to know, here I am to clarify them.
Moreover, if in their thoughts they believe that it would be more understandable and less dangerous for us to form the new order on England's land under their religious backing, we will have no problem in assessing that situation, we know very well the dangers of Ireland, especially the antecedents of Former ex-communion of the famous pirates of ONE
I am also available to know if it is also predictable to physically locate the new order in lands of England and be closer to your faith, we can also evaluate if you wish
It may be less dangerous and more active if we expand that faith through the British Isles and perhaps over time and depending on what is needed, we can make trips to Ireland.
As I said, we are in formation and in expassion, although we have chosen to do it from Ireland, but now seeing the activity and the active presence of the brothers in this section, I feel happier and with another vision that may help me and guide with the final decision.
It is at your discretion and desires to see where it is convenient to help them expand our Faith. _________________
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Lacine
Inscrit le: 17 Mai 2018 Messages: 159
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 6:37 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thank you for clarifying your intentions. I find them noble and I also admire your zeal. But the way you present yourself as if you're Jah's gift to the faithful of the British Isles, I think, will not go well with the very people you wish to recruit to your fold.
Monderakalbarrasin a écrit: | among all those who can share the Aristotelian desire we can do much to raise churches, res parendo, form new Aristotelian religious, so celebrate sacraments and masses at the Res level It is what our faithful want, that they know that the Church never forgets them and that is what I want to accomplish on this trip and after going through two defenses to the dioceses of Artois and from Rennes, share those experiences with my brothers from the British Isles |
I think you've already made conclusions even before immersing yourself to the land and to the people. Saying that RP churches doesn't exist in many parishes (whereas you've only set foot to two towns) and that you will be the one who will build them is far from accurate because you even prayed inside the church in Dover that may even be older than you. You're giving offense to the Roman clergies of Scotland and England that are working hard for their own parishes. You're also giving offense to those who have tended to their parishes when they were still alive and whose churches they opened are still in existence until today. May I advise that you gather enough experience and information first before you form your conclusions.
Brother, know that my words are not meant to chastise you but to help you be more effective in what you wish to accomplish.
I would also like to believe that you will actually make England as your base of operation and recruitment, while Ireland will just be your home base only by name? If your only fear are pirates whom you think will harass you as you cross towards Ireland, maybe I can be of help to assure your swift and safe passage.
I pray for the success of your recruitment. It will not be that easy because aside from England as home to many knightly organizations, you will also be competing with local county armies, plus the Royal English Army and the Royal English Navy for members.
Do update me of your journey so I can have nearby confreres to assist you on your pilgrimage through England. _________________
And restless is my heart until it rest in thee. [Bishop of Carlisle] |
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 7:10 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thank you Brother for your words and put your reflections and points of view on the subject and perhaps in my wishes and expressions may have generated doubts or different opinions when thinking
Let me correct and humbly express myself about these yearnings
As I said, I have noticed when arriving at the islands, that I have not seen Res Parendo churches so far, at least in the way that forums are structured in this area is very different from how they are structured in our home, they are structured by villas and restaurants at the same time, here I see that they have another way of organizing them and maybe I have lost a bit in the different rooms
Neither do I come to compete with any organization or military structure of the different counties or kingdoms, our vision is to help through escorts, travel or simply a link between the different religious organizations as in this case the Holy Army, traveling, exploring, looking for information and with your help bring the church closer in every way
Recruit, only the highest will say if it will be positive or if we can only be present in a spiritual way to accompany ideas, doctrines, dogmatic knowledge, that is, an instrument of communication and knowledge.
As I said, it is not coming to say that my idea or project is absolute, my pilgrimage trip is to know these islands and their way of seeing the church, I think that apart from your presence, there are more people out there waiting to join and is in us about the Aristotelian tools and one of them is the creation of official churches,
Also, although I do not know these places, from here with their presence and contributions have been more than positive and interesting that make my motivation to help is even greater.
Therefore, everything that this Primacy can guide me and advise me in what can help me in this beautiful experience among you, will be my blessing to receive it
Excuse me if my expressions or reflections have been strange, I have much to learn from your church and I do not want to invade anything, nor impose anything, just pilgrimage, learn and if necessary expose ideas and projects that help them strengthen your local presence .
The creation of churches will be seen at the end of this trip with the information that you are lucky to get and what you can guide and advise me.
It was not easy for me to make this trip, many for minors on the way, especially the dangers we had to help defend in the French dioceses until the danger disappeared and gave me the calm to be able to cross to your islands
I only humbly ask for your trust, advice and help so that this trip is the result of what with sacrifice and love for our Church we have a positive result for all
I will confess to you, in my beginnings as a young soldier in the Gallic armies, I lost my mentor, an excellent knight defender of the Aristotelian faith, he raised me when he found me in an orphanage, and died in my arms on the battlefield, at his death I promised him that I would defend the Aristotelian faith as he did until his last alientom and that is why, in honor of my mentor, it is my sacrifice and struggle to have our beloved Church in the elite of the faithful.
My intentions are noble, but only this path is not easy. That's why I apologize if my emotions in my words have fallen into doubt, but as a good Knight of the Church, you do what you feel best to defend what once I swear to defend before the church, ... defend it and help see it grow
/me he kneels and takes out his crucifix and prays in silence with tears in his eyes before the memories
May the highest bless you and your wisdom and advice be my guide in this pilgrimage
Thank you in truth, your help and advice will be more important to me in this trip
I have written a letter to the local archbishop of Dover, I am waiting for an answer. I will contact the local religious to meet them and tell me their experiences
what you answer me I'll leave a copy in this section, so they have a copy _________________
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gastaldia
Inscrit le: 15 Nov 2015 Messages: 830 Localisation: Zaragoza
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 7:50 pm Sujet du message: |
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The Seneschal of the Spanish Temple and Inquisitor in the Spanish area was following those talks attentively and felt the great emotion in his heart that exchange of thoughts, thoughts and good intentions and to forget a little some tensions took the floor.
Brothers, great and noble hearts I see in this room and that is all a pride for our church.
Because we did not start these discussions with some points of the work of the British churches, for example.
What dioceses do you have with functioning churches to carry forward sacraments?
Are these sacraments carefully recorded?
Because they do not tell us a little about these activities and in which local dioceses have more activity and which would be missing a little more help?
What can you tell us about it?
Is there a special task that you carry out for the motivation of parish and pastoral life?
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Monderakalbarrasin
Inscrit le: 28 Avr 2016 Messages: 1094 Localisation: Monzón
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 8:32 pm Sujet du message: |
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Is it true, because we do not start with the main thing, that they can tell us about the different functions regarding the works of both the Primacy and the local parishioners?
So have something basic and fundamental that I should know in my stay? _________________
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Jolieen
Inscrit le: 28 Mai 2018 Messages: 3052
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Posté le: Jeu Juil 04, 2019 11:41 pm Sujet du message: |
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My der Brother Lacine I am Happy for All the energy invested by our brother. I am not offended maybe cause I see this visit as a good way to get to know our strength and weaknesses. Brother monderak has good intentions and has announced his visit long time ago. If he sees things it is upon us to answer or correct his first sight he did by own experiences as he is giving us a point of view of a spectator who's a faithful.
Aristoteles taught us to embrace friendship and so shall we embrace this pilgrimage as a way to get to know each other better and the different cultures we come from. _________________
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