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[Debate] About the electorial process

 
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MessagePosté le: Mer Sep 27, 2023 5:36 am    Sujet du message: [Debate] About the electorial process Répondre en citant

    Dear colleagues, I have been thinking about the election procedure with which the Curia makes its decisions.

    I consider the canons to be unnecessarily complex and propose a reduction that will greatly facilitate general and speedy voting within the Curia and reduce unnecessarily complex structures.

    I thought of the following change to the relevant canon.

    Black - stays in the law
    red - is delated
    green - is new and replace


    Citation:
      Article 4.1: The Sacred College takes its decisions by consensus or by vote.

      Article 4.2: The votes, launched at the Sacred College, have a standard duration of 5 days.

      Article 4.2.1: All decisions taken at the Sacred College are made by an absolute majority of the votes cast.

      n.b. : Absolute majority means:
      - If the total number of votes cast is even: half of the total votes, plus 1.
      - If the total number of votes cast is odd: half of the total votes rounded up to the next higher number.
      - In all cases, blank votes or abstention votes are deducted from the total number of votes cast to establish the majority threshold.
      - A blank vote is a vote of abstention.


      Article 4.2.1: All decisions shall be made by consensus or election by simple majority vote.

      Article 4.2.1.1: Exceptions to the rule are: Changes and additions to the dogma and excommunications. These amendments require a consensus and a quorum of 2/3 of the cardinals with voting rights.

      Article 4.2.2: Any decision that is up to a vote must include the choice "abstention".

      Article 4.2.3: Any decision that is up to a vote which includes different choices than "agree or disagree" must obligatorily include the choice "against all proposals" in addition to the choice "abstention".

      Article 4.2.4: A second ballot is only organized if an absolute majority has not been reached in the first ballot. The proposals put to the vote are necessarily those which can obtain an absolute majority during this second ballot.

      Article 4.2.5: A third ballot is only organized if an absolute majority has not been reached in the second ballot. Only the two proposals with the most votes in the second ballot are put to the vote. The third ballot follows the rules laid down in the articles 4.2.2 and 4.2.3.

      Article 4.2.6:
      No quorum is required for the polls, unless otherwise specified in Canon Law, and except for the following cases:
      - the election of the Pope (if applicable) requires a quorum equal to or greater than two-thirds of the Cardinals designated as electors in that election.
      - the election of the Dean (see details within article 7.1).

      Article 4.2.7: The abstention votes are counted in the calculation of the quorum.


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MessagePosté le: Mer Sep 27, 2023 10:14 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I am absolutely convinced that your iconoclastic fury, Brother Kalixtus, is inappropriate.

The decisions of the Curia are fine as they are, we can discuss the election of the Dean, but leaving the door open to haste and superficiality in the most important decisions that affect the entire Church, no.

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MessagePosté le: Mer Sep 27, 2023 11:42 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

I fully agree with what our sister Fenice has said.

I am against this amendment.

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MessagePosté le: Jeu Sep 28, 2023 3:30 pm    Sujet du message: Répondre en citant

    About what furry do you speak, Sister? I make a suggestion, cause the Curias decisions are far to slow.

    We could see it with all important things. Everyone can see this.

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