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Lordwilb
Inscrit le: 21 Jan 2009 Messages: 1206
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Posté le: Ven Sep 11, 2009 8:20 pm Sujet du message: Church Heraldry |
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Appointment to the Roman Heraldic College
We, Ellesya of Louveterie, Prefect of the Roman Office of Heraldry, Lady of Clos Luce,
Announce and ordain, by this act, the appointment of Liam O'Donoghue as a Herald of the clergy and representative of our office with the Hill of Tara.
Declared in Rome on the ninth day of September in the year of our Lord MCDLVII.
Ellesya of Louveterie, Heraldic Officer of Rome.
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I have been appointed as a Herald of the Clergy, so anyone who would like a coat of arms with their church decorations can now have one!
Please post either here, in the Heraldry office, or PM me if you'd like one. Unfortunately, I can't do seals.
Thanks,
Liam _________________
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Kiane
Inscrit le: 18 Juil 2008 Messages: 69
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Posté le: Mar Sep 22, 2009 6:02 pm Sujet du message: |
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Brother Liam,
Congratulations! I would be most interested in having my COA decorated in the way of the church. Let me know what you require and I will make it so! Thank you!
Father Kiane~ _________________
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Lordwilb
Inscrit le: 21 Jan 2009 Messages: 1206
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Posté le: Mar Sep 22, 2009 8:06 pm Sujet du message: |
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Father Kiane;
I regret to inform you that the COA used in your banner already uses church ornaments (the big hat...)
However, there is a second style of hat (scroll down, cure et pretre means Priest and lower down there is a second set of designs, they're nucer IMO);
http://rome.lesroyaumes.com/viewtopic.php?t=1237
Also, we could quarter it with your parochial (parish) CoA if one exists (or make it ourselves ) _________________
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Kiane
Inscrit le: 18 Juil 2008 Messages: 69
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Posté le: Mar Sep 22, 2009 9:46 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thanks Liam,
I was just hoping for something a little more... dramatic. lol. thanks for the link, I like the other hats! And as for quartering it, I think i will just leave it as one for now. Thanks!
Father Kiane~ _________________
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tuvoria
Inscrit le: 13 Fév 2008 Messages: 695 Localisation: Central Florida USA
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Posté le: Mer Sep 23, 2009 12:02 am Sujet du message: |
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Brother Liam,
I would be honored if you could develope something for me that would include both my bishoporic position and my role as Apostolic Secretary. If it helps I also am a carpenter and a pig farmer.
+Tuv _________________
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Blazingfast
Inscrit le: 26 Mai 2008 Messages: 345 Localisation: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posté le: Mer Sep 23, 2009 5:17 pm Sujet du message: |
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Hi Br Liam!
I would like if you could come up with something for me please. I am:
Superior Abbot of the Grey Friars Res Parendo
Apostolic Nuncio to Cornwall
Writer of the Holy Office
If you need some information whatsoever please inform me. _________________
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Lordwilb
Inscrit le: 21 Jan 2009 Messages: 1206
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Posté le: Ven Sep 25, 2009 9:05 pm Sujet du message: |
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Right, so over the weekend I can work on these.
Kiane - change coa to other hats. Kiane, could you post the actual CoA on its own? I can only see the one in your banner.
Tuvoria - I'm not sure how this works, actually. I think we're meant to use the bishop hat, as it's "more senior" as a title. Which "style" would you prefer;
this:
or this -
We could also use the apostolic ambassador collar on it;
Do you have any more ideas for the actual content of the inside of the shield? Like mine's an owl.
Blazingfast - do you already have a basic CoA, or do you have any ideas for that? _________________
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tuvoria
Inscrit le: 13 Fév 2008 Messages: 695 Localisation: Central Florida USA
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Posté le: Sam Sep 26, 2009 12:35 am Sujet du message: |
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I like the top one the best. If you could encompass the Apostolic collar and the image/smybol of a Stag or a Boar would be great. _________________
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Apocas Cardinal
Inscrit le: 10 Nov 2006 Messages: 4290 Localisation: Salisbury, Clifton
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Posté le: Sam Sep 26, 2009 9:58 am Sujet du message: |
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Tuvoria doesn't actually qualify for the collar.
It is only for the non-ordained.
The following is the one he would use as the apostolic secretary:
However as he is a bishop, he would not use this (as mentioned seniority is the determining factor). Also the second arms is not for a bishop. It is for the vicar general. The following is for the bishop (or the first one posted):
Father Kiane actually does qualify for a different arms as he is a vicar diocesan. I do not see a template, but it would be described as follows:
Le blason est surmonté d'un chapeau de sinople d'où pendent de chaque côté 3 glands (1 et 2).
It is pretty much the same as the 2nd posted ny Br William, but with only the top 2 rows of tassels.
Father Blazingfast, as an abbot res parendo , can use either of the following:
or
Now you might think he should use the nuncio's arms. He doesn't for two reasons: 1) A nuncio to a county has a rank equivalent to a vicar diocesan, but a superior abbot has a rank equivalent to a vicar general; and 2) He is not actually a nuncio, he is actually a pro-nuncio, due to the lack of a signed concordat between the church and Cornwall. _________________ Former Bishop of Clifton
Former Roman Cardinal-Elector and Prélate Plénipotentiary
Former Cardinal Chamberlain of England, Scotland, and Ireland
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Blazingfast
Inscrit le: 26 Mai 2008 Messages: 345 Localisation: Launceston, Cornwall
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Posté le: Sam Sep 26, 2009 5:25 pm Sujet du message: |
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As for me I choose the second one.
I would like to have a burning ember and a closed book representing the book of virtues.
In the banner I would like this to be written: DEO DUCE FERO COMMITANTE _________________
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Lordwilb
Inscrit le: 21 Jan 2009 Messages: 1206
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Posté le: Dim Sep 27, 2009 4:22 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thanks Apocas. I don't believe we have a vicar diocean template, I think it is only vicar general of a metropolitan province. Therefore, the priest template is more suitable.
Brother Blazingfast, Father Tuvoria, I'll do my best. _________________
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Apocas Cardinal
Inscrit le: 10 Nov 2006 Messages: 4290 Localisation: Salisbury, Clifton
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Posté le: Dim Sep 27, 2009 6:04 pm Sujet du message: |
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Lordwilb a écrit: | I don't believe we have a vicar diocean template, |
Not yet, but if there every were one available... _________________ Former Bishop of Clifton
Former Roman Cardinal-Elector and Prélate Plénipotentiary
Former Cardinal Chamberlain of England, Scotland, and Ireland
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Lordwilb
Inscrit le: 21 Jan 2009 Messages: 1206
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Posté le: Dim Sep 27, 2009 6:28 pm Sujet du message: |
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Thanks.
Tuvoria, what do you think of this design?
We may need to add a motto, though, do you have anything in mind?
Everyone else, it won't be long Kiane, are you happy just for the shield shape transfer or do you want other changes? _________________
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Lordwilb
Inscrit le: 21 Jan 2009 Messages: 1206
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Posté le: Dim Sep 27, 2009 8:40 pm Sujet du message: |
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Brother Blazingfast, I came up with the following;
what do you think? _________________
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Posté le: Dim Sep 27, 2009 8:47 pm Sujet du message: |
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Just attempted on with motto;
Any good? _________________
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