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[Sixtus]

Bonjour Ogma,

I have a mostly complicated request today, if there is something not too clear let me know.

First of all, we would need a new group called [Curia] Returned Emeritus with all the same rights and accesses currently held by the [Curia] Emeritus group on the whole forum. You can add me as moderator of this new group.

Once that is done we need to rename the [Curia] Emeritus group as [Curia] Active Emeritus and grant it all the rights and accesses currently held by the [Curia] Suffragants - Suffragans group.

Thanks in advance, I hope it is not too hard to do
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[Rehael]

Il n'est en principe pas nécessaire de s'embêter à créer un nouveau groupe.

Le groupe [Curia] Emeritus a été créé (voir : ici) pour y mettre les cardinaux émérites absents depuis un certain nombre de mois, qui ne devaient pas avoir le droit de vote à l'élection du camerlingue. Donc pas de droit de vote dans la section "Chapelle Saint-Lescure" ou se déroule cette élection.

Entre temps, il a été décidé de retirer les accès de ces cardinaux émérites inactifs à la Curie. Donc pour moi, il suffit de retirer simplement les accès à la Curie au groupe [Curia] Emeritus.

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In principle, it's not necessary to create a new group.

The group [Curia] Emeritus was created (see : here) to put the emeriti cardinals absent since some months, who should not have right to vote in the election of the camerlengo. So no voting rights in the section "Chapelle Saint-Lescure" where this election takes place.

In the meantime, it was decided to withdraw access to these inactive emeritus at the Curia. So for me, it's enough to simply withdraw the access to the Curia to the group [Curia] Emeritus.

[Ogma]

Hello !

Thank you Rehael for these informations.

Cesarino, is it OK for you if I remove the right of access to the Curia to the groupe [Curia] Emeritus ?

[Sixtus]

[Rehael]

Je ne vois personnellement pas l'intérêt de créer un groupe supplémentaire ayant exactement les même droits et accès qu'un autre. Les émérites (hors les émérites inactifs depuis l'année dernière) sont considérés comme assimilés aux suffragans et ont toujours été membres du groupe [Curia] Suffragants - Suffragans. C'est d'ailleurs mentionné dans le descriptif du groupe (voir : ici) .

De même que le groupe [Curia] Électeurs - Electors rassemble tous les cardinaux électeurs, indépendamment des différentes catégories de cardinaux (romains ou nationaux), puisqu'ils ont eux aussi les même droits et accès.

A mon avis, multiplier les groupes ne vas pas rendre la gestion plus simple, et si l'on commence à faire des groupes pour chaque catégorie, il faudra le faire pour chacun.

Par contre, je pense qu'il serait effectivement bien de modifier le nom du groupe [Curia] Emeritus comme le propose ljd Cesarino, pour qu'il soit bien clair que ce groupe ne concerne que les émérites inactifs.

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I personally don't see the point of creating an additional group with exactly the same rights and access as another. The emeriti (except the inactive emeriti since last year) are considered assimilated to suffragans and have always been members of the group [Curia] Suffragant - Suffragans. This is also mentioned in the description of the group (see : here).

As the group [Curia] Electors - Electors gathers all the cardinal electors, regardless of the different categories of cardinals (roman or national), since they also have the same rights and access.

In my opinion, multiplying groups will not make management simpler, and if we start to make groups for each category, we will have to do it for everyone.

On the other hand, I think it would be a good idea to change the name of the group [Curia] Emeritus as proposed by ljd Cesarino, so that it's clear that this group only concerns inactive emeriti.

[Ogma]

J'ai modifié le nom du groupe [Curia] Returned Emeritus. Effectivement, il me semble assez inutile de faire deux groupes ayant exactement les mêmes droits.

Peut-être que l'on pourrait changer le nom du groupe [Curia] Suffragants - Suffragans en "[Curia] Suffragans & Active Emeritus" ?

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I have changed the name of the group [Curia] Returned Emeritus. Effectively, it seems to me useless to make 2 groups with the same rights of access and moderation.

Maybe we could changed the name of the group [Curia] Suffragants - Suffragans to "[Curia] Suffragans & Active Emeritus" ?

[Sixtus]

The problem is that we will soon have the need to move certain names (the emeritus) from one group to the other depending on their presence and having them in a single group would make it easier to find them and avoid mistakes, e.g. removing the accesses to other players.
Would you mind to also suppress this group in the meanwhile? Unless it has some access I cannot see it is basically a double of the other Curia groups
http://rome.lesroyaumes.com/groupcp.php?g=3751

Merci
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[Ogma]

This group [Curia] Cardinali Italofoni is moderator for these forums :

[Sixtus]

Thanks a lot! Then we can suppress it, all those sections are already under the other Curia groups
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[Ogma]

Done !

[Sixtus]

Merci beaucoup!
I let you choose whether to create or not the other group, but having a specific group for the active emeritus would avoid many problems and controls.
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[anguillerusee]

I just lost my access To everything ni Curia Being in none of the groups.
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[estevan]

[Rehael]

So, active emeritus should not be in the suffragan group as before?

[Sixtus]