L'Eglise Aristotelicienne Romaine The Roman and Aristotelic Church

[Apocas]

#2 is simply a listing of What beliefs can be found in what books.

[Emunah]

yes I understood what #2 was saying - I had it wrong looking at #3 though - thought it was saying those were teh two options that meant teh same. and it was a list of opposing ideas

But hey, thanks for working with me here on this. I know I can take some awful twists and turns at times


Slowly getting there

Master of Latin: 29%
Master of ancien Greek: 96%
Master of English Language: 10%


Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
The Good : 100 %
Virtue : 50 %
Temperance : 50 %
Logique : 59 %
Les sens de l'Etre : 59 %

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No good or peace ever results from arguing.

[syounger]

Despite all the other concerns I have I'm really pleased you are working things out!
It’s above my level of understanding but I'm also intrigued and enjoy reading this thread!
To me what you are doing is apart of what the game should be about and why the Church way could be so interesting if it was fully coded and we could make the Church work to encourage more to join!
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Cardinal Bishop in Partibus of Augusta Former Bishop of Portsmouth, Whithorn, Glasgow, Hereford & Worcester

[Emunah]

Well, since the Greek class is all filled up, I am reading Timée. Let’s see what happens. Here is my info:

Master of Latin: 29%
Master of ancien Greek: 96%
Master of English Language: 10%


Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
The Good : 100 %
Virtue : 50 %
Temperance : 50 %
Logique : 59 %
Les sens de l'Etre : 59 %

[invisible007]

[Emunah]

[invisible007]

I'll to try to answer some questions. I hope that there is no error

* I don't think there is a prerequired (in this case 200 IP) to obtain 100% in "Aristotle".
* In order to develop his ideas (transcending menu) only 1 possibility: read the good book and have some prerequired

* How to change our ideas? Here is an extract of a French forum. (http://rome.royaumesrenaissants.com/viewtopic.php?t=1121&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0):

La beaute / beauty
- La beauté sensible est une image de la Beauté éternelle que l'âme a toujours déjà contemplée => La Banquet - Platon - Greek Sussex / Cornwall / WILTSHIRE
- La beauté résulte de certaines proportions et de certaines mesures et rythmes harmonieux => Poétique - Aristote - Greek NO IN ENGLAND

La metaphysique
- La métaphysique est la science des causes premières (Metaphysics is the study of first principles). => Métaphysique ? - Aristote - Greek WILTSHIRE
- La métaphysique est la science de ce qui est, en tant qu'il est : de l'étant en tant qu'étant => Métaphysique G et Z - Aristote - Greek NO IN ENGLAND

Les choses/ Things
- L'essence des choses est dans les choses-mêmes, et leur donne forme => Métaphysique ? - Aristote - Greek, Physique - Aristote - Greek
- Les choses sont des copies des Idées (Things are copies of the Ideas). => Parmenide - Platon Greek NO IN ENGLAND

La sagesse / wisdom
- Le bonheur est une forme de contemplation, que le sage doit s'efforcer d'atteindre (Happiness is a kind of meditation). => Ethique X le vrai bonheur et Poétique - Aristote - Greek NO IN ENGLAND
- L'homme sage doit participer à la vie de la cité (the wise man must take part in the life of the City). => La République" de Platon WILTSHIRE

Other
l'Etre Divin est tout-puissant => la Physique d'Aristote, De providentia - Sénèque - Latin WILTSHIRE , De natura deorum - Cicéron - Latin NO IN ENGLAND et Timée - Platon - Greek SUSSEX


On the same forum:

Sussex :
-L'Être Divin est tout-puissant (The Holy Being is Almighty). (Timée - Platon – Grec)
-L'homme sage doit participer à la vie de la cité (the wise man must take part in the life of the City). (La République - Platon – Grec)

Wiltshire :
-La métaphysique est la science des causes premières (Metaphysics is the study of first principles). (Métaphysique A - Aristote – Grec)
-L'Être Divin est tout-puissant (The Holy Being is Almighty). (De providentia - Sénèque – Latin)
-La beauté sensible est une image de la beauté éternelle que l'âme a toujours déjà contemplée (Sensible beauty is an image of Eternal Beauty that any Soul has already contemplated once) ET les choses sont des copies des Idées (Things are copies of the Ideas). (La Banquet - Platon – Grec)
-L'homme sage doit participer à la vie de la cité (the wise man must take part in the life of the City). (La République - Platon – Grec)

Cornwall :
-La métaphysique est la science des causes premières (Metaphysics is the study of first principles). (Métaphysique A - Aristote – Grec)
-La beauté sensible est une image de la beauté éternelle que l'âme a toujours déjà contemplée (Sensible beauty is an image of Eternal Beauty that any Soul has already contemplated once) ET les choses sont des copies des Idées (Things are copies of the Ideas). (La Banquet - Platon – Grec)
-L'Être Divin est tout-puissant (The Holy Being is Almighty). (Timée - Platon – Grec)
-L'homme sage doit participer à la vie de la cité (-L'homme sage doit participer à la vie de la cité (the wise man must take part in the life of the City). (La République - Platon – Grec)). (La République - Platon – Grec)


Don't forget that all the ideas (except The Holy Being is Almighty) have their opposite.
Thus it is necessary to read THE good book.

[invisible007]

The more we possess skills (100 %) in Theology (Aristotle, Logique, The Beginning of the World, Sense of Being), the more the sermons will be effective (the more we win point of divine thruth (pvd in french)).
The PVD seems to be necessary to progress in the virtues (good, friendship, justice, temperance ....).

[invisible007]

[Apocas]

[Emunah]

HoL is House of Lords but it is IG that I am referring too. You pay to get this option. It will increase your % to learn things in the university. It has other IG benefits too, but for this here, I am only using it as a reference for learning. If a player is in the HoL and taking classes from a French professor, he will learn the lesson faster. Then he can teach others. See what I mean?

Somerset = no, what I am saying is this: Somerset university has very little L-3 players attending classes. In the last post, one person said that he had only one student. So, my point is this, If they have no one attending and therefore no one teaching classes, we can have a professor from France come here and teach us what we do not have - get it now?
IOW's the university is not having any classes due to poor attendance. We set it up to 'borrow' the rector for our professor to teach XX days straight. or we may be able to get 2 professors if 10 people from the CW would agree to be there while the professors are here

[Emunah]

Master of Latin: 29%
Master of ancien Greek: 96%
Master of English Language: 10%


Some stuf on Aristoteles : 100 %
The Good : 100 %
Virtue : 50 %
Temperance : 50 %
Logique : 59 %
Les sens de l'Etre : 59 %



You're sure that the Holy Being is Almighty.

It doesn't seem insane to you to pretend that sensible beauty is an image of Eternal Beauty that any Soul has already contemplated once.

It doesn't seem insane to you to pretend that the wise man must take part in the life of the City.

It doesn't seem insane to you to pretend that metaphysics is the study of first principles.

You say to yourself that maybe things are copies of the Ideas.
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[Apocas]

[invisible007]

Ok for the definition of HoL. I'm a Lord in the game, but i didn't know this abbreviation.

I'm french, so my apologies if I don't understand all your messages.

[Emunah]

007, This is great!!! I may ask some real bone head questions or just plain be to stubborn to understand it at times, But I am determined to get the info in place for those that are starting up. So this is absolutely wonderful - I thank you!!

Ok, I will have to read, think, reread, think some more ...morals eh? I need more info on this complex beast. We need to shoot one and dissect it in our laboratory

EDIT - I have not tried preaching yet. I had a request for womans hose and I want to finish off my Greek. There ended up being no classes so I worked in my shop. I then went to see if I could preach but if you choose that option, that is your activity for teh day. I figure it is not working anyway an da waste of a day. Right?
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