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Arnault d'Azayes
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Posté le: Mer Mai 20, 2015 8:39 am Sujet du message: |
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The answers followed themselves quickly, what liked the inquisitor.
« - You're talking about the separation of the Church. Can you tell us when, how and why the Church separated?
You're saying you were appointed archbishop of Esztergom. Who appointed you, when and how was taken the decision? » _________________
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Sava
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Inscrit le: 20 Oct 2009 Messages: 1337 Localisation: Hungarian Kingdom
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Posté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2015 12:42 am Sujet du message: |
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Sava looks at the cardinal, and says:
- The church has been separated because of the hatred. More than two years ago I left the Church because of Rome. The Hungarian Church has always played a very important role in history, and has always been a prominent place. Unfortunately, the Curia has always looked at us as a small country in the Balkan, which is always wrong. But we are not a country in the Balkan! We are proud Hungarians! Rome completely drowned us and our rights are restricted. Then I decided to leave the Church because I do not give my name for the tyranny and hypocrisy. Unfortunately, it was a lot of politics in the Curia and the Cardinals were fighting against each other, instead they were each other's brothers. I was a cardinal, but I did not want to fight with my brothers, so I left Rome. After a few months of rest and prayer, I have returned, and again worked for the Church, but not for Rome. I disappointed a lot in Rome. My faith is fully aristotelian, but I could not identify with those people who were previously associates. I hope that now there are wise and prayerful cardinals in Rome. _________________
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Arnault d'Azayes
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Posté le: Jeu Mai 21, 2015 9:14 am Sujet du message: |
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« - Aristotle told us the virtues of the friendship and the dialog among the different people and languages. Did you try to explain the problems to the cardinals before leaving the Church? If yes, what were their answers? If no, why?
And I still wait an answer for my previous question: You're saying you were appointed archbishop of Esztergom. Who appointed you, when and how was taken the decision? »
The blind cardinal hoped Cationa followed everything, but he was nearly sure of this. _________________
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Sava
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Posté le: Dim Mai 24, 2015 10:01 am Sujet du message: |
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The patriarch looks at the cardinal and says:
- First of all, let me say something! We came here to Rome as a guest to our brothers and sisters. We did not come to a court hearing, but we came for a friendly chat. So please change the forum title (Inquisitorial trial for the Hungarian Church), and we can answer all of your questions and my brother. _________________
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Arnault d'Azayes
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Posté le: Dim Mai 24, 2015 10:07 am Sujet du message: |
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The blind cardinal remained upset a few seconds.
« - Forum title? What do you mean? The forum of the Ancient Romans? I do not understand your point. Of course this is not a trial, just a simple audience. Please answer my questions. »
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Catriona Delacroix
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Posté le: Mer Mai 27, 2015 1:38 am Sujet du message: |
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Cat continued to make some notes, not really knowing what was going on, but as she only needed to record what was being said for now, she didn't let it worry her. _________________
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Arnault d'Azayes
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Posté le: Sam Mai 30, 2015 8:19 pm Sujet du message: |
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After some minutes of silence, the blind cardinal said:
« - Could you answer my questions please? If you don't want to, tell it. » _________________
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Sava
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Posté le: Lun Juin 01, 2015 5:06 pm Sujet du message: |
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After thinking the patriarch says, :
- Thank you, Eminence! The mood in the room is much better. I answer your question as follows:
I'm told the problem several times. If you want, check out the archive of the Curia. There you can find everything. Unfortunately, I got a lot of blame, and the Cardinals were not with me. But that's the past.
The will of God, I became archbishop again my Brother.
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Catriona Delacroix
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Cat noted the man's answer down, a little inward sigh. Had he not just said previously he would be happy to answer all questions if the terms of the hearing were clarified to one of an informal chat? And yet with that done, he then avoided answering, saying he had answered all questions in the past. Cat pondered the man. Perhaps he had forgotten the details which is why he referred to archives hoping to refresh his own memory, or perhaps he wanted to spin this out. She didn't know why people couldn't discuss things in a straight-forward way. She dipped the quill into the inkwell, ready for the next words spoken. _________________
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Arnault d'Azayes
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Posté le: Lun Juin 01, 2015 8:35 pm Sujet du message: |
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The blind cardinal sighed.
« - I would like you to answer my questions with your own words. I read the archives of the curia, I want to hear your vision of the facts. Please telle me: did you try to explain the problems to the cardinals before leaving the Church? If yes, what were their answers? If no, why?
Then, I hear your answer to the second questions. So you say God appointed you bishop? You haven't been elected by men but chosen by God, is it right? » _________________
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Nane
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Nane shakes his head and gently suppress a yawn. _________________
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Sava
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Posté le: Mer Juin 03, 2015 1:51 am Sujet du message: |
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Sava is also a sigh.
- Of course, I tried to explain to them everything. They did not listen, so I decided to resign from my titles. Then they accepted my resignation, and after a short time they excommunicated me from the church.
I was elected as bishop and later archbishop by the Hungarian Episcopal Conference for many years ago. Later I became patriarch by the others patriarchs. And I became archbishop again by superiors, nobles and peoples of the Hungarian Kingdom.
I hope that everything is clear my Brother. _________________
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Iosephus yawn a little, this is really contagious. _________________
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Arnault d'Azayes
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Posté le: Mer Juin 03, 2015 10:31 pm Sujet du message: |
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Arnault heard the assembly annoying itself but did not react.
« - Yes, now it is clear. I will have a last question. The facts we are talking about took place some years ago. From your resignation to now, you have been patriarch. Could you summarize us your action as Patriarch? First what you did to manage your Church; and then your relations with the Roman clerics. » _________________
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Posté le: Ven Juin 05, 2015 11:55 am Sujet du message: |
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The Portuguese Cardinal was listening the audience with the Hungarian Church, to fully understand the situation. He was quite happy for seeing Dunpeal Godwin de Avis, an ancient and well-known member of Portuguese Church, retired a long ago. He made a fantastical job building the Portuguese Church, despite all the things that happened after.
When the audience started to yawn, NReis called two of her Deacons and instructed them to distribute coffee with some traditional pastries of Portugal, called Travesseiros de Sintra. The audience has been long and he was sure that everyone was hungry.
After the snack, NReis got up from his seat, and spoke directly to Brother Sava:
- Brother Sava, I'm pleased to meet you. Let me introduce myself: My name is NReis Ribeiro de Sousa Coutinho, and I'm one of the Suffragan Cardinals of Portugal, along with my Brother Palladio Monforte. As representatives of the Portuguese and Roman Church, we're here to hear the Hungarian population and their wills. Allow me to remember your words and ask you some questions - NReis unfolded a parchment when he was writing the things said on the audience and read the words of Brother Sava.
Sava a écrit: | More than two years ago I left the Church because of Rome. The Hungarian Church has always played a very important role in history, and has always been a prominent place. Unfortunately, the Curia has always looked at us as a small country in the Balkan, which is always wrong. But we are not a country in the Balkan! We are proud Hungarians! Rome completely drowned us and our rights are restricted. |
After a pause on the speech, NReis proceeded:
- Brother Sava, after listening your words I got worried with this situation. Why did you say that the Curia always looked at you as a small Country? Why did you say that Rome drowned you and restricted your rights? And finally, do you want to unite again the Hungarian Church with Rome? _________________ His Excellency NReis Ribeiro de Sousa Coutinho | Archbishop of Braga | Vice-Primate of the Kingdom of Portugal | General Secretary of the Roman Registers | Writer of the Saint Office | Translator on Villa San Loyats
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