L'Eglise Aristotelicienne Romaine The Roman and Aristotelic Church

[Arnault d'Azayes]

What's this new chamber?
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Mort des cardinaux von Frayner et d'Azayes

[Kiscsillag.]

They won the election, part of them was in the last term. The judge is Sava's friend, the prosecutor is the wife of one of Sava's priests... Shall I say more?
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SE Vidigueira-Szapáry Kiscsillag
Cardinal-Presbyter Emeritus of the Papal Consistory of Central and Eastern Europe

[Arnault d'Azayes]

To be sure I understand: both the condamnation and the revocation of the condamnation were made by the political power?

btw: Ysabet, where are you?
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Mort des cardinaux von Frayner et d'Azayes

[Ysabet]

What shall I do? Kill them with my stick?

What says your Concordate again about the cooperation between church justice and seculra justice?
And about the council, how many have to be baptised?

I guess the Curia voted their excommunication long ago?
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Roman Cardinal Emeritus
Bishop In Partibus of Cydonia

[Egal]

[Renegade]

But Sava is Aranykorona. Sava doesn't hide this fact.
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Bishop of Pécs

[Arnault d'Azayes]

Is she/he baptized? If no we can pronounce the interdict right now. If yes please find proofs of the heresy and the identity and we'll vote the excommunication.

[Renegade]

I've confiscated the domains and wealth of the heretic-friend judge (Arion - who is roman aristotelian believer [? - I'm not sure in it any more] but friend of Sava).

Sava was baptised, he was roman cardinal. But he was excommunicated becuse of his behavior. Then he went to Serbia and became priest and patriarch.
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Bishop of Pécs

[Arnault d'Azayes]

OK. So I think we need to excommunicate him. What do you think?
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Mort des cardinaux von Frayner et d'Azayes

[Renegade]

Who do you think? Arion or Sava?
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Bishop of Pécs

[Arnault d'Azayes]

If both are baptized both must be excommunicated, musn't they?
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Mort des cardinaux von Frayner et d'Azayes

[Ysabet]

If we have a verdict of the iInquisition trial. We can use this as base to excommunicate their leaders with anathema and their followers ipso facto. And the sane time we declare the not baptised followers to enemys of the church.
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Roman Cardinal Emeritus
Bishop In Partibus of Cydonia

[Arnault d'Azayes]

Do you Renegade and Kiscsillag feel able to manage an inquisition trial?
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Mort des cardinaux von Frayner et d'Azayes

[Kiscsillag.]

First of all these are the main problems (OOC: not mentioning that they can't rp...)

1. They deny that they are heretics, because they "just" building another church with some aristotelic elements

2. If we (H.Em. Renegade or myself) doing/saying anything against them, they announcing that it is because of personal issues not because of the religion

3. They have a lot of supporters inside the hungarian aristotelic church - openly or not, they are helping them

4. we can do a trial, again, but the sentence won't be executed...

5. yes, I'm pessimistic, but seen all those lies and propaganda on our forums made me like this...

If you have an option to make a trial with someone outside the Hungarian Church (as someone who can't be pointed at as subjective person) I'd support that idea, otherwise it's just tilting at windmills...
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SE Vidigueira-Szapáry Kiscsillag
Cardinal-Presbyter Emeritus of the Papal Consistory of Central and Eastern Europe

[Arnault d'Azayes]